NLHE win rate for a good player in B&M setting

[Gonso]

For whatever reason OP was trying to get an idea of what a good player's winrate is at these levels live. As worded, he was asking if the game was beatable:

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what I am trying to say is the game is beatable assuming the hero is one of the better players on the table.)

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Just saying, "don't worry about it, it doesn't matter" doesn't really tell the OP anything.

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Good players, I think, won't really care about their win rates in these games, other than to know that they are beating the game at all. I don't think that it's good to optimize your win rate for these low limit games.

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That's total nonsense. First off, you can have a positive WR in a game that isn't worth playing (or you could have more WR in one game than another). Second, you should try to 'maximize' your WR in any game you're playing.

[Dov]

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That's total nonsense. First off, you can have a positive WR in a game that isn't worth playing (or you could have more WR in one game than another). Second, you should try to 'maximize' your WR in any game you're playing.

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This is simply not true.

It depends on why you are playing that game.

I agree with you if your goal is to play this level forever. In that case, then maximizing your winrate for this level makes sense. But if you aspire to move on, then I think that simply need to develop enough skill to do well at the next limit rather than squeeze every last drop of WR out of your current limit.

You will simply make more money by moving up if you have the skill.

A direct example of not maximizing your winrate for a current game is Daniel Negreanu's now well known training exercise 'Nut Bar'.

Obviously, maximizing winrate is not important in this example, developing more advanced skills is.

To readdress the BR question, OP should use his own WR not the rates of other players that he thinks are good.

Dov

[PhantomGoose]

What if he doesn't have the skill or roll to play at the next level?

< $3/hr @ 1/2 NL

[Dov]

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What if he doesn't have the skill or roll to play at the next level?


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Then you wouldn't ask what the BR requirements are for a good player, you would ask for the requirements for a marginal winner. That's why I was saying that you need to use your own winrate and standard deviation in the bankroll calculations.

[holdme]

Live 1/2 NL is usually extremely soft. But about half the hands are dealt as online. I would guess that your winrate per hour should be the same as single tabling online.