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Old 02-02-2006, 04:34 PM
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My concern was that instead of people slowly being turned on to poker and keeping a steady (but much smaller) stream of fish coming in slowly, we are just dumping all the fish in the ocean at once and soon everybody who ever would have tried to play poker has tried it, realized they suck or busted out and then we will enter an age where there will be no more fish.

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LOL That's a good one.

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Old 02-02-2006, 04:52 PM
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Yea you know, I first thought this too. However, reading a book isn't everything. You have to be able to apply that knowledge to your game. That's what separates the winning players from the fish. In addition to that, I know alot of people who read books and still don't change their game. It's hard to go from playing every hand, to a selective few for some people. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 02-02-2006, 05:06 PM
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With the popularity of online poker suddenly, isn't there the possibility that eventually everyone will go out, start reading poker theory books, checking out online strategy, etc. and then there won't be any fish left ?!

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In a word, No.

I think you are underestimating how difficult it is to get good at poker. (I'm not there yet, but I certainly have much respect for the task ahead)

The MAIN attributes you need for poker (IMHO) are:
Discipline
Drive
Enthusiasm
Vision
Open mindedness
Intelligence
Empathy / People skills
(probably more, but I can;t think of any [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img])

You need all of these, to some degree.
I think the percentage of the population that meets the above criteria (even before buying a poker book) is quite small.

Also, you have to remember that learning to play well, requires learning in a "different" way than most people have been used to. That's why it can (with the wrong mentality) be a very frustrating game.

That's the BEST thing about poker, for me. The APPARENT simplicity that alures people to it- until they get their fingers burnt! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Old 02-02-2006, 05:21 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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No. I'd guess that 3/4 of all people who read poker books are unable to either grasp the concepts or implement them at the tables. And considering the quantity of terrible advice I've seen in the strategy boards here, internet poker groups add to the fish rather than subtract from them.
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Old 02-02-2006, 05:44 PM
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No. I'd guess that 3/4 of all people who read poker books are unable to either grasp the concepts or implement them at the tables. And considering the quantity of terrible advice I've seen in the strategy boards here, internet poker groups add to the fish rather than subtract from them.

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Heh.

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Old 02-02-2006, 06:19 PM
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Considering that the shark to fish ratio on 2+2 forums, where arguably the largest group of poker afficionados in the world are collected, is probably 60:40 or worse.....no, I don't think we have anything to worry about.

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Old 02-03-2006, 08:46 AM
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>> requires learning in a "different" way than most people have been used to. <<

Provide an example, please!
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:01 AM
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>> requires learning in a "different" way than most people have been used to. <<

Provide an example, please!

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I think this is referencing the fact that it is hard for learning players to not be results-oriented. If they are making +EV decisions, but not they are not working out, they might start rethinking what they've learned. Most learning disciplines provide more accurate earlier feedback on the information digested (ahh, variance).
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Old 02-03-2006, 10:12 AM
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>> requires learning in a "different" way than most people have been used to. <<

Provide an example, please!

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I think this is referencing the fact that it is hard for learning players to not be results-oriented. If they are making +EV decisions, but not they are not working out, they might start rethinking what they've learned. Most learning disciplines provide more accurate earlier feedback on the information digested (ahh, variance).

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Thanks SMB, thats' EXACTLY what I meant. You articlulated it better.

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Old 02-03-2006, 10:54 AM
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