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Old 11-20-2006, 11:05 PM
Haiku Haiku is offline
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Default Re: Need a checkup, KK on sort of ugly flop

TT/JT/9T/QQ/instacall.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Need a checkup, KK on sort of ugly flop

Very easy call.

Your pf reraise is perfect.

Helps you get AI on the flop
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Need a checkup, KK on sort of ugly flop

Board: Jc 9c 8h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 56.8348 % 56.25% 00.58% { AA, QQ-88, AcQc, J9s+, T9s, 98s, J9o+, T9o, 98o }

Hand 2: 43.1652 % 42.58% 00.58% { KcKd }



We are behind with KK, but its true that with pot odds we could easily call against that range of hands.



A tight opponent will call preflop only with a pocket or AK and maybe AQ:

Board: Jc 9c 8h
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 60.1654 % 58.05% 02.12% { 88+, AcKc, AcQc }
Hand 2: 39.8346 % 37.72% 02.12% { KcKd }



ok, its close, but the call still ok. We had to win 36% of the time minimum to be ev+ and we have 38% of winning.
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Old 11-21-2006, 01:27 AM
WutRUTryin2Hit WutRUTryin2Hit is offline
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Default Re: Need a checkup, KK on sort of ugly flop

Thanks for all the input. I have gotten stacked by these situations a LOT lately (it's always a set the last 4 times), and I just am not sure whether it's variance or what. I think maybe I need better table selection, maybe I am not playing with enough rocks.

I guess it must be at least somewhat variance that everyone keeps hitting sets on me though, as of tonight I am actually DOWN money this month with KK over 17k hands (down 3 buyins with it tonight, 1 of which was this, 2 of which I was waaaay ahead) and this is probably the most questionable spot I ever put it in, it's not like I'm racking off all the time when the flop is AQJ or something. Oh poker.
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Old 11-21-2006, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: Need a checkup, KK on sort of ugly flop

the only hands we are ahead of here are TT and QQ..with only 50 left you have to call but we need a Q to choop here I think and not the Qc
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