Learning NL 1/2

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I think you can easily call this. One, his bet is pretty strong. Probably means he's got a king. If you hit a heart on the turn, play the flush because he doesn't look to have it and check calling represents chasing the flush. If you hit your 5, you will make more money.

[nuggetz87]

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you can raise and you can fold but you sure as hell can't call

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Why what is your reasoning? On page 145 of Ed Millers book it says this is an easy call.

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it's not a call unless villain is a guy who c-bets a lot and you have a decent chance of taking it on the turn. you definitely don't have odds to call on your gutshot + bdfd though.

i actually like calling at least as much as folding, but i'd probably raise. good chance you can take the pot right there. if he calls, you can either bet turn if you still think he's weak or check behind for a free chance at completing your hidden straight draw.

[Freelancer]

Fold this without reads, you have no idea if he's capable of folding his K if you 'hit' the flush draw. You also have no idea if villain c-bets frequintly (making a float profitable), and you don't have odds to hit your gutshot (since again you know nothing about your villain).

So if you call your basically lost on the turn unless you hit your gutshot.

[tufat23]

all options are available, you aren't calling JUST to hit the gutshot tho, you are gonna have to be able to take it away later on when u miss

[Hince]

I assume the reason you called preflop is so that you can call this type of flop, am I right? If not, I think you should re-evaluate your preflop strategy.

[Freelancer]

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all options are available, you aren't calling JUST to hit the gutshot tho, you are gonna have to be able to take it away later on when u miss

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Against a unkown I find it hard to believe that a float/bluff is profitable if you miss. The gutshot is just icing on the cake really, but the cake isn't that great to begin with.

[Clayton]

FOLD PRE

FOLD FLOP

[Clayton]

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all options are available, you aren't calling JUST to hit the gutshot tho, you are gonna have to be able to take it away later on when u miss

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WHICH MEANS TERRIBLE 2+2ERS WILL BE LIKE LOLZ WATCH ME SHOVE THIS 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] TURN

[relativity_x]

If he's betting 15 into a 20 dollar pot, I'd say he realizes that there's a flush draw out. If a heart falls on the turn, I'd be willing to bet you could take the pot. However, it would be a lot safer play with reads on the villain.

[ajmargarine]

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you can raise and you can fold but you sure as hell can't call

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LOL, ROFL, etc.

The flop call in position is one of the most potent weapons in my arsenal.