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Old 11-06-2006, 11:28 PM
jfk jfk is offline
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Default Re: folding KK on a raggedy board to a lot of aggression

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I 3bet for info, I figured if he caps he has to have nothing less than aces. But yes, the pot is way to big to fold with a chance of hitting a set on turn. I think if I call the turn I would still fold the river though. If he is a good thinking player do you guys think he will cap the flop with anything less than aces ?(I am pretty sure he sees me as a tight reasonable player, I tend to slow down here, but folding something like this is new to me).

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Aces are a strong possibility. No one would doubt that, but they aren't the only possibility. You have to call down with your kings here. You can't call the turn and fold the river. That's worse than folding the turn.

Just because you might lose the hand doesn't mean you've played it badly in calling down.
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Old 11-07-2006, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: folding KK on a raggedy board to a lot of aggression

First off, even if his hand was flashed, you still are absolutely right to call the flop, and you know that, so I'm just going to assume that you called the flop and a blank came on the turn. If you fold the turn, and you're right, you save about 1.5 BB, (the bets you save minus the times you spike a king on the river). If you're wrong, and you're against KK or something, you lose 12.5 BB.

One's a very small mistake, the other one's a huge mistake. You need to be 90% sure that you're beat here in order to fold. Even if you're behind 80% of the time, folding is a mistake that costs you a bet and a half on average.

Now, "sort of LAP preflop and sort of TAG postflop" is not the kind of read I'd be 90% sure about here. How many times do you see a pot pumped four way only for the winner to turn over top pair? Maybe if your read was "rock-tight 90 year old man who hates to raise", this play would have merit, but I'm just not seeing it here.
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:09 AM
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looking at the pot size being 19.5 sb I think a call here is definitely right just on the chance I hit a king.

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Big pot. H/U with KK. I ch/c down every time here.

Heroic folds in limit poker leave little margin for error.
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