KK is this Standard

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not bad but I would bet a bit more preflop, 150-250 depending on how loose the table is. With blinds at 20 early on, sometimes I get too many callers with 120 raises. I really do not want to go to a flop with 4 of us with a hand that will not improve.

Other strategy is to min raise preflop, hope you get reraised by a big ace then pop them.

You want action with your KK but you do not want 4 to the flop, where you may be around 35% to win. I would rather get the same amount of chips in with one other and be 75%.

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No no. You got it all wrong. Min-raise PF, fold if you get re-raised. On the flop, no matter what, push for all your chips.

Better yet, just min-raise the whole hand through. Min-raies PF, min bet flop, min-bet turn, etc.

[HerbieGRD]

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not bad but I would bet a bit more preflop, 150-250 depending on how loose the table is. With blinds at 20 early on, sometimes I get too many callers with 120 raises. I really do not want to go to a flop with 4 of us with a hand that will not improve.

Other strategy is to min raise preflop, hope you get reraised by a big ace then pop them.

You want action with your KK but you do not want 4 to the flop, where you may be around 35% to win. I would rather get the same amount of chips in with one other and be 75%.

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No no. You got it all wrong. Min-raise PF, fold if you get re-raised. On the flop, no matter what, push for all your chips.

Better yet, just min-raise the whole hand through. Min-raies PF, min bet flop, min-bet turn, etc.

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I believe "min-raise all streets" should become the default strategy for any hand we choose to play in any position all the time - talk about being hard to read!

[CityFan]

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not bad but I would bet a bit more preflop, 150-250 depending on how loose the table is. With blinds at 20 early on, sometimes I get too many callers with 120 raises. I really do not want to go to a flop with 4 of us with a hand that will not improve.

Other strategy is to min raise preflop, hope you get reraised by a big ace then pop them.

You want action with your KK but you do not want 4 to the flop, where you may be around 35% to win. I would rather get the same amount of chips in with one other and be 75%.

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No no. You got it all wrong. Min-raise PF, fold if you get re-raised. On the flop, no matter what, push for all your chips.

Better yet, just min-raise the whole hand through. Min-raies PF, min bet flop, min-bet turn, etc.

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I don't think sarcastic answers are particularly helpful. The hand is fine as played. The question for me is WHAT DO YOU DO IF RAISED OR CHECK-RAISED?

[HerbieGRD]

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WHAT DO YOU DO IF RAISED OR CHECK-RAISED?

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Push

[Sam T.]

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The question for me is WHAT DO YOU DO IF RAISED OR CHECK-RAISED?

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Say, "Thank you God!" and call/raise/reraise and see how many chips you can get in the middle.

[seke2]

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The question for me is WHAT DO YOU DO IF RAISED OR CHECK-RAISED?

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Say, "Thank you God!" and call/raise/reraise and see how many chips you can get in the middle.

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BUT YOUR TOURNAMENT LIFE IS AT RISK!

[Sam T.]

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The question for me is WHAT DO YOU DO IF RAISED OR CHECK-RAISED?

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Say, "Thank you God!" and call/raise/reraise and see how many chips you can get in the middle.

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BUT YOUR TOURNAMENT LIFE IS AT RISK!

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Ah-ha, but I always multitable, so my tournament life is NEVER at risk. I think of it as akin to existing in multiple realities simultaneously. It's my way of sticking it to The Man.

[Easy17]

Preflop raise size makes a huge difference.

My experience has been 120 raise (5x BB) just starting off is simply too small relative to starting stacks on Stars, and gets lots of callers with Ax suited, other draws etc. This is exactly what you do not want (with KK). As you played this hand you are around 35% to win, and will have a hard time folding your kings post flop.

I have found that raises of 175-250 will isolate down to 1 caller much more effectively, although it seems like an additional 55 chips shouldnt matter it does.

As far as my alternate strategy of min raise (to 40, from EP or MP) then pushing any reraise, I have had success with this. What will happen is I get 2-3 callers at 40 behind, then AQ,AK,99-QQ in LP will pop in a big raise hoping to steal all the min-limps or double up early. I push over the top and am a 70-30 favorite to stack him, and take the limpers chips as well. This is not my standard play however, just for mixing it up early in a tournament. Normally I raise as I said 150-250.

[Jeff76]

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As far as my alternate strategy of min raise (to 40, from EP or MP) then pushing any reraise, I have had success with this.

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It is not good to proclaim your hand (a min raise is almost always AA/kk) and giving speculative hands no-brainer odds to call.

[AceLuby]

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Normally I raise as I said 150-250.

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Like I said earlier, who is calling 150 that isn't calling 120? 4xBB + 1BB for every limper is standard (6xBB in this situation) and going away from your standard raises gives away your hand. If you make the same raise w/ 67s as you do w/ AA or KK you will make opponents make harder postflop decisions because they have less info. I understand pumping up the pot and thinning the field, but we don't want to drive all hands that we destroy out of the hand either. This is especially true if you are confident in your post flop play.