How do you maximize this crap?? - Page 2

fslexcduck · #11 10-09-2006, 11:55 AM

a player good enough to check behind with kings will easily fold kings to our shove (especially with dry side pot). if they are calling with aces, they are certainly shoving to our check.

unless the person is very passive and/or bad i think that shoving lets them get away from things they easily shove with when we check.

MDMA · #12 10-09-2006, 12:39 PM

I agree with your points duck; in essence I think it probably works both ways, depending on a specifics players mindset and tendencies..some like to call more (and thus might talk themselves into a bad call with kings which he might have checked behind given the chance), some like to push more (in which pushing ourselves might have made him fold said kings whereas he would push himself otherwise).

JMa · #13 10-09-2006, 12:40 PM

why not lead turn?

Chaostracize · #14 10-09-2006, 12:41 PM

This is going to sound so lame... min-raise?

jcmoussa · #15 10-09-2006, 01:05 PM

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a player good enough to check behind with kings will easily fold kings to our shove (especially with dry side pot). if they are calling with aces, they are certainly shoving to our check.

unless the person is very passive and/or bad i think that shoving lets them get away from things they easily shove with when we check.

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I think no matter what we do here, the villain is probably going to know he's up against quads 80% of the time. i think this is the line id take in this hand, but shoving on the turn works as well.

good2cu · #16 10-09-2006, 01:13 PM

Am I the only one who likes a turn lead better?

JP OSU · #17 10-09-2006, 01:32 PM

def not... Cr on flop and turn SCREAMS monster, If i were perlu I would definitely fold KK and likely fold AA to almost any continued action from you because your line looks SOO strong

El Diablo · #18 10-09-2006, 03:11 PM

hm,

As played, I like min-raising the turn.

I prefer a turn lead, though. Both a $2000 lead and a turn push have their merits.

binions · #19 10-09-2006, 05:30 PM

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hm,

As played, I like min-raising the turn.

I prefer a turn lead, though. Both a $2000 lead and a turn push have their merits.

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Anyone else not in love with the check-raise on the flop?

BLdSWtTRs · #20 10-09-2006, 05:32 PM

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def not... Cr on flop and turn SCREAMS monster, If i were perlu I would definitely fold KK and likely fold AA to almost any continued action from you because your line looks SOO strong

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the only hand that beats perlu is quads. Perlu could think he has a slowplayed qq or kk