The 2.5x BB raise - why?? - Page 2

JuntMonkey · #11 10-05-2006, 11:40 PM

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I make it 2.75x, which is another example of me playing perfect poker.

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DevinLake · #12 10-05-2006, 11:43 PM

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It's actually very mathematical.

At times, 3x BB is simply spew.

Ryan

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Can you elaborate?

To me you are saying that the greater the strength of your hand, the better odds you can give. So, with stronger hands if you raise 2.5BBs it will be a mistake for your opponents to call. However, if you have a weaker hand, it may require 3BBs to make it a mistake for them to call.

Obv you are not doing this, so I assume you actually mean something different?

flyty86 · #13 10-06-2006, 12:40 AM

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2.5x BB bet does the same thing as a 3x BB bet as far as fold equity in steals. no need to risk more chips than you need to for the same effect.

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this is not true.

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we are talking about later on in sng's when the blinds actually mean something right?

Iamafish · #14 10-06-2006, 12:43 AM

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2.5x BB bet does the same thing as a 3x BB bet as far as fold equity in steals. no need to risk more chips than you need to for the same effect.

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this is not true.

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we are talking about later on in sng's when the blinds actually mean something right?

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In most cases, you don't 2.5x bet late in sng's...

futuredoc85 · #15 10-06-2006, 12:48 AM

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2.5x BB bet does the same thing as a 3x BB bet as far as fold equity in steals. no need to risk more chips than you need to for the same effect.

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this is not true.

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we are talking about later on in sng's when the blinds actually mean something right?

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In most cases, you don't 2.5x bet late in sng's...

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like when. 100/200 standard raise is 500 if your not pushing. 500/200=2.5

Iamafish · #16 10-06-2006, 12:50 AM

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2.5x BB bet does the same thing as a 3x BB bet as far as fold equity in steals. no need to risk more chips than you need to for the same effect.

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this is not true.

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we are talking about later on in sng's when the blinds actually mean something right?

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In most cases, you don't 2.5x bet late in sng's...

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like when.

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um...when you're pushing...

100/200 aint really late either...

futuredoc85 · #17 10-06-2006, 12:52 AM

cases in which you push are totally irrelavent to the OPs question

Jshuttlesworth · #18 10-06-2006, 03:59 AM

You raise 2.5 X the BB because whenever you raise more or less than 2.5, a gay baby is born. That is why.

You are welcome.

slik · #19 10-06-2006, 06:10 AM

The main reason is so that you do not pot commit your self. Once blinds become a large % of stack sizes, you will often be getting greater than 2-1 odds to call a push reraise, particularly in the ante phases. With a smaller raise, your pot odds will be worse to call a push, and getting away from the hand becomes an option.

1huskerfan · #20 10-06-2006, 12:09 PM

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It's actually very mathematical.

At times, 3x BB is simply spew.

Ryan

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Can you elaborate?

To me you are saying that the greater the strength of your hand, the better odds you can give. So, with stronger hands if you raise 2.5BBs it will be a mistake for your opponents to call. However, if you have a weaker hand, it may require 3BBs to make it a mistake for them to call.

Obv you are not doing this, so I assume you actually mean something different?

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2.5xBB is pretty standard as it is a pot sized raise and it helps control the pot on the CB. Personally I think people use 3x in BM tournies because they are either too lazy or too dumb to calculate the half bet in. Most online sites have a standard button for it.