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10-02-2006, 06:39 AM
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Re: Neteller up. New Terms of Service
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I don't know what the previous TOS said, but... [ QUOTE ] 12.1 You are prohibited from engaging in any of the following: (i) using the NETELLER Service to obtain a cash advance from your credit card ( or assisting others in such activity); (ii) using the NETELLER Service for any purpose contrary to laws, statutes or regulations applicable to you, including without limitation, those concerning money laundering, fraud, criminal activity, financial services or consumer protection; (iii) sending unsolicited email or similar methods of mass messaging (spam); (iv) harassing or engaging in obscene, rude or abusive behaviour against us or any of our representatives; and (v) tampering, hacking, modifying, damaging, interfering with or otherwise corrupting the security or functionality of the NETELLER Service, or attempting to do any of the foregoing. [/ QUOTE ] Looks like they may be trying to throw the ball back in the consumer's court and trying to indemnify themselves. But then again, they say "statutes or regulations applicable to you," which is not the new bill, since it is a regulation on financial institutions and not individual players. [/ QUOTE ] some sort of stance like UB is taking would be nice, where its up to the consumer to deem what the legality is of using their service. 
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#14
10-02-2006, 06:48 AM
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did any of you who cashed out while neteller was down recieve your money yet? I did (3-4 hours ago) and havent gotten it [/ QUOTE ] yeah, I requested a cashout from stars like 3 hours ago, money is not in stars or neteller.
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#15
10-02-2006, 06:48 AM
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Re: Neteller up. New Terms of Service
15.3 15.3 We assume that prior to opening your Account, you have determined that opening and maintaining your Account does not violate any law or regulations in your country of residence and jurisdiction. You warrant that you are not violating any laws or regulations by your use of the NETELLER Service and you agree to indemnify NETELLER, its affiliates, subsidiaries, agents and subcontractors, from and against any and all liability that might arise from your use of the NETELLER Service in violation of any law or regulation. Didn't read all of the new TOS, but found this to be of particular interest.
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#16
10-02-2006, 06:51 AM
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Re: Neteller up. New Terms of Service
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15.3 15.3 We assume that prior to opening your Account, you have determined that opening and maintaining your Account does not violate any law or regulations in your country of residence and jurisdiction. You warrant that you are not violating any laws or regulations by your use of the NETELLER Service and you agree to indemnify NETELLER, its affiliates, subsidiaries, agents and subcontractors, from and against any and all liability that might arise from your use of the NETELLER Service in violation of any law or regulation. Didn't read all of the new TOS, but found this to be of particular interest. [/ QUOTE ] Well... that was exactly what I thought 12.1 was trying to say. It's funny that Neteller is trying to idemnify themselves from the customer. They can be indemnified from any suit from a Neteller user, but it would NOT indemnify them from action from the Federal government.
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#17
10-02-2006, 06:54 AM
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Re: Neteller up. New Terms of Service
Didn't get it (EU user).
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#20
10-02-2006, 06:59 AM
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Re: Neteller up. New Terms of Service
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If neteller is doing something the US government deems illegal, these T&C's won't get them off the hook UNLESS the customer lies about residency. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah you're right. I'm just friggin' tired. I edited my post, it should have read that the clause does NOT indemnify Neteller from Federal laws.
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