How Bout These "Loopholes/End Runs"? (poker sites take note)

[MicroBob]

average joe is not going to be willing to go through the trouble of starting a Canadian bank account.

Right now, I'm more concerned with a work-around that I can actually use.

I understand, because somebody is ALWAYS pointing it out, that "the games will be dead anyway."

But, right now, I'm less concerned about the quality of the games because I think I can still win with RB and bonuses against a bunch of Europeans anyway.

I'm just concerned about ME being able to fund the account.
And if it is not very risky or illegal to have such transactions from a Canadian bank (or South America or wherever) then I'm perfectly willing to show up in person to set up that account.

And I would be perfectly willing to pay my full tax obligations as well.

Yes, the games are certainly going to be dying quite a bit.
But it appears it is still okay to actually PLAY the games (albeit somewhat less fishy ones).
It's just a pain to figure a workaround for funding.

[fortygzflat]

there is no possible way for the us govt to block neteller or ip.

[DeNutza]

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If you two mean us bank -> canadian bank -> neteller -> poker site, or even just us bank -> canadian bank -> poker site, then that works for me, *assuming* such canadian banks do let you start an account like that. Of course whether average joe is willing to go to that trouble, like with what I or others have suggested is unknown.

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Yes..

Ive never did it, but even if its hard an online
acct in canada (as
it is to get a swiss account), there has to be
other major countries that will allow it....This is
important imo, because it will be impossible
to block from a bankers point of view.

And it should be no more difficult to start then
a firepay or neteller account...perhaps an extra
step in FAXING or EMAILING your SS# and ID......

[True]

I was thinking this, surely Party could create a seperate entity such as "PartyBank" whereby you can put money into that bank. If you have money in that bank they would offer such incentives to move it into Party poker, however this would all be done externally to the US and therefore legally.

True

[SkinnyLittleTwig]

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there is no possible way for the us govt to block neteller or ip.

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Of course they can, the chinese are blocking basically the entire internet.

[DeNutza]

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And if it is not very risky or illegal to have such transactions from a Canadian bank (or South America or wherever) then I'm perfectly willing to show up in person to set up that account.

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I know what your saying..I myself would go to Canada to
do the same...I know you can definately do it in person.

I totaly 100% disagree that people wont go the "extra
step" to start an "online" foreign bank account.

Look at all the people that signed up for neteller and
had to verify their deposits and all that crap...Also
all sportsbooks require FAXING ID, etc...Its that
simple...they have plenty of US customers.

Im more worried about the IP blocking..MR K says
its not in the bill...Im not so sure...possilby a tough
work around here.

[bkholdem]

re: canadian bank account: better check with neteller to see if they will link to a canadian bank account that belongs to a US citizen who resides in the US. In another recent thread someone indicated that neteller would not do that.

[DrewOnTilt]

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But, right now, I'm less concerned about the quality of the games because I think I can still win with RB and bonuses against a bunch of Europeans anyway.

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I surprised that no one has yet mentioned that this piece of [censored] bill may have a negative effect on affiliates and rakeback, as well. Think about it.

[DeNutza]

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I was thinking this, surely Party could create a seperate entity such as "PartyBank" whereby you can put money into that bank. If you have money in that bank they would offer such incentives to move it into Party poker...


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Not sure if Id trust my $ in Bank of Party...But the
problem with this is, our banks will block EFT's to
Bank of Party...No different than Neteller issue..
You need a major legite bank like Cizitens Bank
of Canada, where they do so much business with the
U.S. banks already, it'll be impossible to block them.

[DeNutza]

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re: canadian bank account: better check with neteller to see if they will link to a canadian bank account that belongs to a US citizen who resides in the US. In another recent thread someone indicated that neteller would not do that.

[/ QUOTE ] I was aware of this policy for swiss
bank accounts...but it wouldnt surprise me if it held
for all countries...Whats stopping them from changing
this policy?

Also you could easily circumvent neteller, just
by using IGM-PAY ala Party (other sites would
need to offer similiar transfers).