$20/$40 hand

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I raised the river because of the guy in between who called and the fact that the guy in the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair. My friend who was sweating my hand thought the river raise was bad. I thought it was an ok raise as long as I could fold to a 3 bet. Just calling the river doesn't seem right here for some reason. I don't know. Perhaps someone could tell me why or why not.

Anyway the big blind 3 bet. Middle position cold called 2 more and I instantly mucked. big blind shows a flush, and the middle position flashes 87o and mucks.

[mr pink]

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I raised the river because of the guy in between who called and the fact that the guy in the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair. My friend who was sweating my hand thought the river raise was bad. I thought it was an ok raise as long as I could fold to a 3 bet. Just calling the river doesn't seem right here for some reason. I don't know. Perhaps someone could tell me why or why not.

Anyway the big blind 3 bet. Middle position cold called 2 more and I instantly mucked. big blind shows a flush, and the middle position flashes 87o and mucks.

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nice hand.

[Barry]

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the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair.

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Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn?


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Just calling the river doesn't seem right here for some reason. I don't know. Perhaps someone could tell me why or why not.

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The BB almost always has a flush with that betting pattern and you can't beat it, that's why a raise is bad.

[mr pink]

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The BB almost always has a flush with that betting pattern and you can't beat it, that's why a raise is bad.

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getting 2 to 1 on your raise? if you can safely fold to a 3bet i think raising is fine.

[Barry]

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The BB almost always has a flush with that betting pattern and you can't beat it, that's why a raise is bad.

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getting 2 to 1 on your raise? if you can safely fold to a 3bet i think raising is fine.

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Getting 2:1 when you're a 10:1 dog is still a bad bet. Sorry you're wrong here. It may not be a full 1BB mistake, but it's pretty close to it.

[Nate.]

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The BB almost always has a flush with that betting pattern and you can't beat it, that's why a raise is bad.

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getting 2 to 1 on your raise? if you can safely fold to a 3bet i think raising is fine.

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Getting 2:1 when you're a 10:1 dog is still a bad bet. Sorry you're wrong here. It may not be a full 1BB mistake, but it's pretty close to it.

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Barry --

OP is nowhere near a 10:1 dog. Very often these types of players think "crap, multiway pot, scary!" on the turn and "hm, turn got checked through, guess my jack/two pair is good" on the river. Also, I'm not big on raising/folding to 3, but this is an easy spot to fold to the third bet.

I think the raise is good, but maybe I'm wrong. I would be shocked if the BB "almost always" has a flush here.

Still plotting revenge for the beats you laid that session at the Wynn,

--Nate

[mr pink]

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I think the raise is good, but maybe I'm wrong. I would be shocked if the BB "almost always" has a flush here.


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yeah, seriously. just calling with the nut straight here is so weak.

[Bill King]

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the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair.

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Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn?


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p.s. you could make a good case for folding pre.

[Barry]

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Big blind who usually plays pretty conservatively

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I don't think he's going to lead into 2 players w/ 2 pair here when all the obvious draws got there unless he did too.

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Still plotting revenge for the beats you laid that session at the Wynn

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I only remember the KJ hand as a beat, but since you guys were playing very aggro PF, I didn't think that I was in bad shape vs. your ranges there. In that case, you had a real hand. I also remember a few beats that you laid on me too. The J3 sooted comes to mind...

[bakku]

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the big blind while timid usually, was on a rush and would be aggressive enough now to bet two pair.

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Don't you think that he would have bet that hand on the turn?


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p.s. you could make a good case for folding pre.

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no.