So if Credit Cards and Neteller are out...

[Lawman007]

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans?

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This hasn't happened, bro. Check out the sports betting forum, they're still allowing us to bet there. In fact, not one sportsbook has stopped Americans because of this legislation (some had not permitted it prior to the legislation even being an issue).

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I'm not a sports bettor, but I recall seeing a number of posts here about several online sportsbooks no longer allowing Americans to bet there after the Betonsports execs were indicted. I know that Betonsports stopped it after that.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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It's pretty hard to dispute this since some online poker sites are already turning away US citizens. So, while there may be workarounds to fund a poker account, there may be no poker accounts to fund. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

However, if the doors do remain open for the US, the first time I funded a poker account it was with something called 900Pay, or something like that, and the deposit was charged to my next month's telephone bill. Does anyone know if this would fall under the restrictions of the bill?

Janis

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The 900-number thing sounds promising, assuming that ISP's don't block the sites - which I don't think is nearly as likely as some are making it out. From what I've read it seems like it's the financial transactions that are the focus here.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans?

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This hasn't happened, bro. Check out the sports betting forum, they're still allowing us to bet there. In fact, not one sportsbook has stopped Americans because of this legislation (some had not permitted it prior to the legislation even being an issue).

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I'm not a sports bettor, but I recall seeing a number of posts here about several online sportsbooks no longer allowing Americans to bet there after the Betonsports execs were indicted. I know that Betonsports stopped it after that.

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Those were all the rip off artists. All quality books (mansion, bodog, cris, pinny, sia, wwts, etc.) still allow it. Plus, Betonsports was a different situation. Their CEO was indicted because he was an idiot. They have toll free answering in the US, and drove vans in the US where they promoted their book and let people make bets from the vans here.

This is not an attempt to make people less wary about the legislation - it's really worth worrying about - but the sportsbooks still allow us.

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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If you have a pessimistic viewpoint that's fine, but this is just not accurate.

[Lawman007]

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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If you have a pessimistic viewpoint that's fine, but this is just not accurate.

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I'm not a pessimist; I'm a realist. Now go stick your head back in the sand.

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wow have some really taken this too far. Blocking access to poker sites/sportsbooks/where does that enter the equation. That is very easy to get around. If blocking the sites were the answer then stopping transactions from banks etc wouldn't be needed. I really believe that this bill will make funding these accounts more difficult and block certain ways to fund them. blocking isp's i have not read anywhere. The us customer base is huge for these sites and they need the players from this huge country. How would you fund poker sites?? A good amount of them allow moneygram not western union but essentially the same. Party poker allows some kind of pre paid calling card you can purchase up to 250 dollars then enter the code at party's cashier and the value is in your account/i for a fact know someone who has done this. If anybody is a pro and makes good money at this game/i would leave here and go to a tax free gambling country in a minute like the UK. The USA is not the only place one can live in this world.

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HR 4411 would make ISP's block gaming sites. No one knows if this is on the table for the DoD Authorization bill.

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can you show me where it says this/blocking isp's??

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Why do you think most, if not all, of the online sportsbooks have stopped allowing betting by Americans? Because their execs don't want to be indicted in the United States, extradited to the United States, and imprisoned in the United States. The poker sites will do the exact same thing if this bill becomes law.

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If you have a pessimistic viewpoint that's fine, but this is just not accurate.

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I'm not a pessimist; I'm a realist. Now go stick your head back in the sand.

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Fair enough...you still are not accurate. Most major books still take action from the US (did you miss out on the free money from Mansion last week?). From recent interviews with Ware and Ayre, two of the biggest names in the industry, this isn't changing soon.