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09-14-2006, 09:48 PM
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Re: question about death and money
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I have a feeling this thread is going in the wrong direction. [/ QUOTE ] Sure is...but it looks like the OP was answered anyway. If friends/family know then it's fraud. If they don't know, then they'll have a cupla hundred bucks once to offset their remaining lifetime of empty birthdays, anniversaries, family holidays, random memories, etc. 
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09-14-2006, 09:52 PM
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Re: question about death and money
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[ QUOTE ] I have a feeling this thread is going in the wrong direction. [/ QUOTE ] Sure is...but it looks like the OP was answered anyway. If friends/family know then it's fraud. If they don't know, then they'll have a cupla hundred bucks once to offset the next 50+ empty birthdays, anniversaries, family holidays, random memories, etc etc etc. [/ QUOTE ] Don't forget funeral costs!
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09-14-2006, 09:59 PM
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Re: question about death and money
Q: Why don't most people that are locked on their decision to commit suicide get psychological treatment, just to see what happens because there's nothing to lose, only to gain (even if they believe it to be mostly meaningless)?
A: Because again, they are not in the right frame of mind to behave rationally.
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09-14-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: question about death and money
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Q: Why don't most people that are locked on their decision to commit suicide get psychological treatment, just to see what happens because there's nothing to lose, only to gain (even if they believe it to be mostly meaningless)? A: Because if they're done with this life, got enough out of it, and are ready to move on, it is -EV to engage in an activity that could possibly make their lives longer. [/ QUOTE ] FYP
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#16
09-14-2006, 10:12 PM
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Re: question about death and money
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[ QUOTE ] Q: Why don't most people that are locked on their decision to commit suicide get psychological treatment, just to see what happens because there's nothing to lose, only to gain (even if they believe it to be mostly meaningless)? A: Because if they're done with this life, got enough out of it, and are ready to move on, it is -EV to engage in an activity that could possibly make their lives longer. [/ QUOTE ] FYP [/ QUOTE ] So you're on the depressive side of your bipolar disorder, I see.
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#17
09-14-2006, 10:26 PM
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Re: question about death and money
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So you're on the depressive side of your bipolar disorder, I see. [/ QUOTE ] Never said that's how I feel NOW. Simply pointing out how far off base your "answer" was. I didn't even address the faulty assumptions in the question to start with. I have no plans whatsoever to try to check out early, but I've been there off and on in the past from ages 10-35. I therefore have a more solid than usual understanding of said mindset. Much of what people say on this topic (not just on this thread) is said from a perspective nowhere remotely close to one that'd make sense to the person they're trying to communicate with. It's like you're using Level 0 thinking to beat a Level 3 table and have no clue how far off base you are. That's all, and it's not meant as an insult. It's a good thing to be ignorant about in your own life...but you're not going to help a damn thing in someone else's by spewing out said ignorance.
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#18
09-14-2006, 10:36 PM
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Re: question about death and money
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[ QUOTE ] So you're on the depressive side of your bipolar disorder, I see. [/ QUOTE ] Never said that's how I feel NOW. Simply pointing out how far off base your "answer" was. I didn't even address the faulty assumptions in the question to start with. I have no plans whatsoever to try to check out early, but I've been there off and on in the past from ages 10-35. I therefore have a more solid than usual understanding of said mindset. Much of what people say on this topic (not just on this thread) is said from a perspective nowhere remotely close to one that'd make sense to the person they're trying to communicate with. It's like you're using Level 0 thinking to beat a Level 3 table and have no clue how far off base you are. That's all, and it's not meant as an insult. It's a good thing to be ignorant about in your own life...but you're not going to help a damn thing in someone else's by spewing out said ignorance. [/ QUOTE ] I take it that irritability is also common in bipolar. Arguing the merits of suicide is ignorant when death is not imminent, Dr. Phil.
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#20
09-14-2006, 10:51 PM
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Re: question about death and money
Never said that's how I feel NOW. Simply pointing out how far off base your "answer" was. I didn't even address the faulty assumptions in the question to start with.
No, Crayzee's barking up the right tree. I've got no overwhelming objections to euthenasia for the terminally ill, but mental suffering, despite it's terrible ubiquity when you're depressed, is a terrible reason to end your life. Depression cuts you off from a genuine experience of life and human love. When I was depressed (4+ years, bitches), I often thought that I would be better off dead (paging tuq), but the fact is, as long as there are any options, you're better off alive. Existence has a lot to offer, and death will offer you no relief, because you won't be there to savor it.
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