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Old 09-13-2006, 07:00 PM
JasonK JasonK is offline
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Default Re: Francisco Liriano is pitching right now

They're already talking about Tommy John surgery.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Francisco Liriano is pitching right now

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Let's try not to be too results oriented, okay?

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I'm not. As I said, I'm not blaming the org. for putting him in. For all I know, they may have been 99.9% sure he was totally fine. Plus they are pushing for the WC/division title. There are many reasons why they may have trotted him out there.

All I'm saying is I would have been EXTREMELY patient with this injury. Maybe they thought they were being patient..but anyway, this season means NOTHING in terms of what "could be" for the future of the Minnesota Twins. I'm going to probably shut FL down until he (and everyone else) beat down my door demanding he plays.

I wouldn't want to be the guy (in the org.) who deems him "OK" to play just to see this happen. Yikes.

Of course there is the argument that even if they shut him down for the remainder of the season, he may have the same problem in spring 07. Some of these injuries (like TJ) require surgery. Time along won't heal them.
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Old 09-13-2006, 07:46 PM
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I'm going to probably shut FL down until he (and everyone else) beat down my door demanding he plays.

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They did this with Johan Santana and they are largely considered idiots for keeping him in long relief for as long as they did. GM Terry Ryan was patient enough with Liriano; this injury was going to happen no matter what.

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Some of these injuries (like TJ) require surgery. Time along won't heal them.

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There's a good UTK article on Baseball Prospectus about how pitchers are coming back from TJ at an alarmingly good rate, and that a significant number are even seeing increased performance. It also alludes to the future when Thomas Juan surgery may be pre-emptively taken on to avoid future injuries AND to boost performance.
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:28 PM
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but anyway, this season means NOTHING in terms of what "could be" for the future of the Minnesota Twins.

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With Liriano and Santana, the Twins had/have a great chance of winning the World Series.
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:14 PM
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Good job, Twins!
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Old 09-13-2006, 10:41 PM
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but anyway, this season means NOTHING in terms of what "could be" for the future of the Minnesota Twins.

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With Liriano and Santana, the Twins had/have a great chance of winning the World Series.

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I know that. They also have a chance of winning for each of the next handful of years, IF Liriano becomes/became fully healed from the original injury. This season doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Q: If all intelligence showed that Liriano was "95% healthy", or put another way "there was a 95% chance he was completely recovered", would you have taken him off the DL and added him to the rotation this week?

At what number would you personally draw the line, UCF?
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: Francisco Liriano is pitching right now

Did he get injured and pulled or was he pulled for allowing some hits?
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Old 09-13-2006, 11:39 PM
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Injured and pulled. Only had given up 1 hit.
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:15 AM
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jeez, u wouldn't think a team like the twins would risk their future for a couple of weeks. Sure, it's a tight race, but it's not fair to the future or to liriano for them to try this. Hopefully, this doesn't get too bad...
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:47 AM
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From what I heard, the injury wasn't going to heal with more time, either he was going to be able to go out their and pitch, or he would sit out the rest of the season and get surgery, so it's not like more rest would have helped...

Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
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