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Old 09-04-2006, 09:37 PM
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wow, didn't know db did that. why doesn't it show up for me? costs money?

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Use the contact us link on the site to get the info. I probably shouldn't discuss it much on 2+2 just because of their advertising policies.

But my pride wouldn't let me stand by idly when someone says that OPR has a better interface. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I wish pokerdb has a ranking system. If there is, let me know.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:39 PM
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I wish pokerdb has a ranking system. If there is, let me know.

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Yeah, if you don't have them little stars thingies (like, um, this player is 8 stars out of 10 ZOMG) then the site is useless. USELESS, I TELL YA.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:43 PM
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I wish pokerdb has a ranking system. If there is, let me know.

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Yeah, if you don't have them little stars thingies (like, um, this player is 8 stars out of 10 ZOMG) then the site is useless. USELESS, I TELL YA.

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Yea, I'm still not sure exactly what the point of a ranking system is. Just looking at the numbers in the sample link shown above should tell you what you need to know, especially after you look around for a bit.

The bottom line is that poker is really not a rankable type event on an overall basis. Obviously you can say X player has the most profit or Y player has the best ROI, but you can't say Z player is the best overall. It's way too subjective and pretty much meaningless in terms of evaluating the people you're playing against.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:48 PM
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I wish pokerdb has a ranking system. If there is, let me know.

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Yeah, if you don't have them little stars thingies (like, um, this player is 8 stars out of 10 ZOMG) then the site is useless. USELESS, I TELL YA.

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Yea, I'm still not sure exactly what the point of a ranking system is. Just looking at the numbers in the sample link shown above should tell you what you need to know, especially after you look around for a bit.

The bottom line is that poker is really not a rankable type event on an overall basis. Obviously you can say X player has the most profit or Y player has the best ROI, but you can't say Z player is the best overall. It's way too subjective and pretty much meaningless in terms of evaluating the people you're playing against.

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Agreed ! My only reason to look at is to understand the range of events top players (money wise, ITM %, ROI % etc.) play and how often they win. I don't care about those funny stars.

I also would like to see the top players (again money, ROI, ITM) based on a particular criteria, say all 55$ tourneys etc.

To me pokerdb is only showing me "select data where player_id='x'" (ok, that's a messed up SQL statement, if you know what I mean). I would like to do all kinds of queries to get a sense of these stats.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:49 PM
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ranking systems are useless, all these chumps who have way more volume than i do but half the skills get all the rankers and fanboys hard, when my ROI and ability to move up have clearly shown i am probably one of the five to seven best players in tournament poker today
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: What are all of the different tournament result tracking sites?

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ranking systems are useless, all these chumps who have way more volume than i do but half the skills get all the rankers and fanboys hard, when my ROI and ability to move up have clearly shown i am probably one of the five to seven best players in tournament poker today

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Exactly what I meant by ranking. I would like to query the database based on a particular criteria (like who has highest ROI in 55$ tourneys etc.) not those stupid stars.
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Old 09-04-2006, 09:51 PM
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I wish pokerdb has a ranking system. If there is, let me know.

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Yeah, if you don't have them little stars thingies (like, um, this player is 8 stars out of 10 ZOMG) then the site is useless. USELESS, I TELL YA.

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Yea, I'm still not sure exactly what the point of a ranking system is. Just looking at the numbers in the sample link shown above should tell you what you need to know, especially after you look around for a bit.

The bottom line is that poker is really not a rankable type event on an overall basis. Obviously you can say X player has the most profit or Y player has the best ROI, but you can't say Z player is the best overall. It's way too subjective and pretty much meaningless in terms of evaluating the people you're playing against.

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Yah, ranking is uselss in MTT's. ROI and stuff is a lot more informative. As for interface - as an IT professional - I'd recommend finding 8-10 stats people look at the most and presenting them on a summary page (initial lookup) and let them drill down further if they want to. SharkScope kinda has a right idea interface-wise, IMO.
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: What are all of the different tournament result tracking sites?

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ranking systems are useless, all these chumps who have way more volume than i do but half the skills get all the rankers and fanboys hard, when my ROI and ability to move up have clearly shown i am probably one of the five to seven best players in tournament poker today

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I agree the rankings are a joke. Especially at pocket 5s. It only ranks registered users, how gay. Im sure their are alot of players who are deserving but just don't have the exposure.
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:20 PM
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ranking systems are useless, all these chumps who have way more volume than i do but half the skills get all the rankers and fanboys hard, when my ROI and ability to move up have clearly shown i am probably one of the five to seven best players in tournament poker today

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According to SharkScope - you're hardly better than I am and Ansky is a losing player... [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 09-04-2006, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: What are all of the different tournament result tracking sites?

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ranking systems are useless, all these chumps who have way more volume than i do but half the skills get all the rankers and fanboys hard, when my ROI and ability to move up have clearly shown i am probably one of the five to seven best players in tournament poker today

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hello nath,

bill parcells says, "you are, what your record says you are". methinks your record speaks most eloquently on your behalf.

these websites have some utility, but they certainly aren't the be all and end all.
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