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Old 08-06-2006, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

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*NOTE THIS IS FOR PARTY POKER which has higher/lower/normal rake than other sites..?

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Stars has much lower rake for limit. At 1/2 party rake is $.50 at 5, .75 at 12 and 1 and 20. Stars is .25 per 5 max 1
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Old 08-06-2006, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

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*NOTE THIS IS FOR PARTY POKER which has higher/lower/normal rake than other sites..?

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Stars has much lower rake for limit. At 1/2 party rake is $.50 at 5, .75 at 12 and 1 and 20. Stars is .25 per 5 max 1

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And at Stars you get autorakeback through FPP. Obviously it's pretty low percentage till you get Platinum Star though.
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Old 08-06-2006, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

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*NOTE THIS IS FOR PARTY POKER which has higher/lower/normal rake than other sites..?

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Stars has much lower rake for limit. At 1/2 party rake is $.50 at 5, .75 at 12 and 1 and 20. Stars is .25 per 5 max 1

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And at Stars you get autorakeback through FPP. Obviously it's pretty low percentage till you get Platinum Star though.

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It's also pretty bad for 6m players too. The VIP program isn't really rakeback. Rakeback is uniform accross limits. The VIP is different. The more people you have at the table the better the VIP progam is vs. rb. For example, a ten player table plays $1 in rake that's about $.025 in rb giiven 25% rb. At a 6 player table, that's $.041. At stars, those are both 1 VIPP.
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

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Those games are VERY beatable either way.. A solid player can easily make 1.5-2bb/100 at these games, although a good rakeback deal is very valuable, particularly at these lower limits. I think it was Bryce in the MHSH forums who said that he believes that up until 15/30, you should be a rakeback player.

Also, by doing a quick little google search, you should be able to come up with some comparitave figures on how the rake differs from site to site.

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But if you play higher than 15/30 you should pass up on rakeback?
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

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Those games are VERY beatable either way.. A solid player can easily make 1.5-2bb/100 at these games, although a good rakeback deal is very valuable, particularly at these lower limits. I think it was Bryce in the MHSH forums who said that he believes that up until 15/30, you should be a rakeback player.

Also, by doing a quick little google search, you should be able to come up with some comparitave figures on how the rake differs from site to site.

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But if you play higher than 15/30 you should pass up on rakeback?

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Obviously. I mean who wants free money.
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:05 PM
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Those games are VERY beatable either way.. A solid player can easily make 1.5-2bb/100 at these games, although a good rakeback deal is very valuable, particularly at these lower limits. I think it was Bryce in the MHSH forums who said that he believes that up until 15/30, you should be a rakeback player.

Also, by doing a quick little google search, you should be able to come up with some comparitave figures on how the rake differs from site to site.

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But if you play higher than 15/30 you should pass up on rakeback?

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Obviously. I mean who wants free money.

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Dude, I already told you: take the money that you would get in RB and use it for TP. That way you save money on TP that you would have otherwise had to pay for out of your winnings.
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

And that 2.77BB/100 is just for you, a tight player who picks his spots. Have a look at the rake for the average player at the bottom of the BB/100 column on the Summary tab. Significantly more than what you are paying. Not only that, for all of us that are paying below the average rake, there are fish that are paying significantly above it!
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Old 08-07-2006, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

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Those games are VERY beatable either way.. A solid player can easily make 1.5-2bb/100 at these games, although a good rakeback deal is very valuable, particularly at these lower limits. I think it was Bryce in the MHSH forums who said that he believes that up until 15/30, you should be a rakeback player.

Also, by doing a quick little google search, you should be able to come up with some comparitave figures on how the rake differs from site to site.

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But if you play higher than 15/30 you should pass up on rakeback?

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Obviously. I mean who wants free money.

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Dude, I already told you: take the money that you would get in RB and use it for TP. That way you save money on TP that you would have otherwise had to pay for out of your winnings.

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GRR, you guys are just killin' me! I can't find the post where he said it, so I guess I'll just have to admit defeat and come to terms with the fact that I'm an idiot who never considered the stupidity of that statement [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

I certainly don't think he meant that you SHOULDN'T play with rb at 15/30+, just that he believes it to be better to play in tougher games where you're NOT going to be winning 2bb/100, and instead rely on rb to make up your winrate at the lower limits.

Cool?!
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Old 08-07-2006, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

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Those games are VERY beatable either way.. A solid player can easily make 1.5-2bb/100 at these games, although a good rakeback deal is very valuable, particularly at these lower limits. I think it was Bryce in the MHSH forums who said that he believes that up until 15/30, you should be a rakeback player.

Also, by doing a quick little google search, you should be able to come up with some comparitave figures on how the rake differs from site to site.

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What do you mean, a "rakeback player"?

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Hehe - I often feel like Im just a rakeback player!
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Old 08-07-2006, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: RAKE = BB/100 ??

Im going to take a while guess and say bryce was saying $/100 is more important than BB/100. So someone can beat a rakebackless site @ 2BB/100 or a rakeback site @ 1.5BB/100 + 1BB/100 in RB, then he should choose the site w RB. When playing at higher stakes since rake is < BBs at the softer site W/o RB it becomes more profitable the play there.
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