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Old 07-26-2006, 04:30 AM
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Sounds like an interesting spreadsheet...is it downloadable from anywhere?
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:26 AM
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Although statistically your hand looks good enough for at least a c/c, I think you have to fold when he gets aggressive on the flop.

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I Love (yes, capital L) the flop bet. I think Chess is actually attempting to get raised here in order to eliminate SB and give the sevens a better chance of holding up.

Chess: Then, assuming you were going to fold the turn if SB called, I like the way this hand is played.

The river, and more specifically PF raiser's river bet, sucks. But I'd definitely make the call there given the pot and the SD equity.
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Old 07-26-2006, 09:54 AM
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I think Chess is actually attempting to get raised here in order to eliminate SB and give the sevens a better chance of holding up.

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I think that Chess isn't betting the flop to get raised but betting because he is likely to have the best hand and c/ring would only bloat the pot as well as tie the SB in. It is 3 handed...

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Old 07-26-2006, 09:56 AM
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This hand is real tough since the villain is unknown. I would play the flop the same, but sometimes release it on the turn if the villain fires again (since this usually means more than UI overs). Then again, I think you need a read to make that lay down so I like your line here against an unknown.

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Old 07-26-2006, 07:13 PM
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I think Chess is actually attempting to get raised here in order to eliminate SB and give the sevens a better chance of holding up.

Chess: Then, assuming you were going to fold the turn if SB called, I like the way this hand is played.



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Firstly, whereas I'm not really hoping to get raised, I don't mind getting raised (by overcards, of course), especially if the raise can knock out SB, who may well be drawing to six live outs not shared by the preflop raiser. Obviously, I didn't like the fact that the SB coldcalled the flop. Consequently, I would have folded the turn had the SB called before the action got to me.

Secondly, others have rightly questionned the preflop limp. Whereas I almost always would limp in a average game, I should have realized from my brief time at the table before this hand that the table was playing a bit tighter and LAGier than average, making the EP limp riskier.

Finally, UTG+2 showed K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and MHING.
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:29 PM
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I think Chess is actually attempting to get raised here in order to eliminate SB and give the sevens a better chance of holding up.

Chess: Then, assuming you were going to fold the turn if SB called, I like the way this hand is played.



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Firstly, whereas I'm not really hoping to get raised, I don't mind getting raised (by overcards, of course), especially if the raise can knock out SB, who may well be drawing to six live outs not shared by the preflop raiser. Obviously, I didn't like the fact that the SB coldcalled the flop. Consequently, I would have folded the turn had the SB called before the action got to me.

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Sorry, should have clarified. Obviously, you don't want to be raised on the flop by a hand that beats yours. You do however, want to be raised by a hand that is drawing in order to knock out SB.

Nice thread.

Btw, WTF did SB have here? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I can't think of a single hand...
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:20 AM
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Perhaps the villain has a read on you for 2 high cards when limping from EP? What could be a general hand range?
AA-99, AKs-A10s, KQs. If this is true he is ahead 7/11 by the turn and a tough one on the river. Looks like you either test him by 3 betting the flop (which is probably no good at first with SB cold calling 2), or fold turn??
Any one hate this line?
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:25 AM
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That's a Loose raise... That's tough once again with no read, but maybe more support for a 3 bet on the flop (unfortunately SB killed that one.).
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:26 AM
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A4 sooted...
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:28 AM
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you know what i would do pf(raise). i would 3bet the flop. if he caps i'm not calling down. i would bet/fold the turn if just called.

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Sb cold call is crying out A5. That was the curve ball in the post flop plan. Other than that I agree.
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