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#12
07-24-2006, 07:31 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
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[ QUOTE ] There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat. [/ QUOTE ] Ummmm...AK? -Aces [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, and why not AA or QQ? Explain pls. 
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#13
07-24-2006, 07:36 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
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[ QUOTE ] There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat. [/ QUOTE ] Ummmm...AK? -Aces [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I was wondering about why he couldn't have AK there. Jurollo, are you assuming that he would call in position with AK there and not reraise? Or are you assuming he would pot control/allow Hellmuth to stab, since there aren't many danger cards (the 67 allows a str8 draw, but not extremely likely).
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#14
07-24-2006, 08:02 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] There isnt a hand that villian plays this way that Phil doesnt beat. [/ QUOTE ] Ummmm...AK? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I was wondering about why he couldn't have AK there. Jurollo, are you assuming that he would call in position with AK there and not reraise? Or are you assuming he would pot control/allow Hellmuth to stab, since there aren't many danger cards (the 67 allows a str8 draw, but not extremely likely). [/ QUOTE ] Problem here is that the EV for waiting until the turn against Hellmuth is low. If Hellmuth has a decent piece of this board, he is much more likely to call a big bet on the flop (suspecting a bluff) than he is to put in a lot of money on the turn. In my experience, on the turn, he'd likely make a small probe bet and fold to any raise. So, IMO, the correct play in this situation with AK against Hellmuth would be to push the flop. But, with the actual hand (a bluff with AT), I think he had a much better chance of taking it down if he waited until the turn. -Aces
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#15
07-24-2006, 10:04 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
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[ QUOTE ] and this could make Phil a very dangerous player [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, 'cause he's just a harmless little bunny rabbit right now. [/ QUOTE ] I don't the guy meant he wasn't an elite player, but what if Phil somehow reaches another level in his game?
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#16
07-24-2006, 10:14 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] and this could make Phil a very dangerous player [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, 'cause he's just a harmless little bunny rabbit right now. [/ QUOTE ] I don't the guy meant he wasn't an elite player, but what if Phil somehow reaches another level in his game? [/ QUOTE ] another level in his game? please! he is a 9 time WSOP bracelet winner. The only problem Phil has is that he makes more money from all his other deals going on rather than poker. He hasn't "played poker for a living" for sometime now which has seen him play fewer and fewer tournaments. You could say his pokerbrat persona and the money it has made him has hurt his game a bit. He nolonger fully concentrates on winning poker tournaments.
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#17
07-24-2006, 10:37 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
I think Phil has realized this and we are seeing this year that he can still be an elite player when he focuses.
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#18
07-24-2006, 10:41 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
i need to change my name to Phil...
he is definitly playing very well at this years WSOP. he will have his 10'th bracelet, if not an 11th to follow this year.
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#20
07-24-2006, 11:08 PM
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Re: Hellmuth Crushing at the WSOP
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Phil is either one or two in the known pros rankings at the World Series (him or Mortenson). [/ QUOTE ] Yeah who is that Joe Hachem chump in 3rd, nobody has ever heard of that guy. Carlos isn't even in the Top 20 but there are players like Cunningham, Ivey, Boyd and Lindergren who are. Carlos is having a good tournament but he isn't getting many Player points, he is like tied for 27th. RZ
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