Best tournament player of all time

[El Diablo]

oy,

OK, well, I can believe maybe he won some tournament in Monte Carlo, but who cares about that, I've never even heard of it so no way is it a prestigious tournament. If this poll was for greatest poker player, Ivey would be high up there because he is really high up there among great cash games players (along with other cash games legends like Chip Reese, David Sklansky, Todd Brunson, John D'Agastino and Jennifer Harman), but I do not really think he is a tournament player.

[imsobroke]

Ivey - Five Championships (Bracelets)

Allen Cunningham

Four Bracelets

[El Diablo]

Guys,

I just want to clarify. I am not saying all these other guys you are mentioning suck. I am just saying that they are not at the level of the guys in my initial poll, which is focused on the cream of the cream, the true all-time great legends of tournament play.

[Morry32]

http://www.cardplayer.com/players/in...etime_winnings

[greg nice]

haha diablo, gold

[JackCase]

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I am not sure about Seidel, but I know for sure he lost to Johnny Chan when Johnny Chan trapped him with the nuts in the WSOP and I would be surprised if he really has 8 or 9 titles (maybe you mean final table appearances, which is a different thing), 1 or 2 would be more believable.

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Seidel has 7 WSOP bracelets and is currently 11th alltime on the Hendon Mob money list.

[El Diablo]

imso,

I am not sure what your point is, maybe these guys have had some limited success in tourneys, that's fine but in this poll I am limiting the candidates to the real all-time tourney greats.

[El Diablo]

Guys,

Sorry, realized I left off one more important candidate.

Edited to add: I don't think The Grinder has a WSOP bracelet yet, but it's pretty obvious he'll win one this year, so you can still vote for him.

[bwana devil]

el diablo, i opened this thread wondering if i would vote for ivey. i think he is the best tourament player right now. dont know about "of all time" though. surprised youre arguing he shouldnt even be on the list.

edit: nevermind. now that i see the grinder on the list, i want to change my vote to him.

[ReDeYES88]

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T,

Raymer has what, one WSOP bracelet? Madsen has 2 and a 3rd place finish in his first month of tourney play. Ivey I am not sure if that guy plays tournaments, I think he is mainly a cash games player. Cunningham? Not sure who he is. Seidel I think just got second place, losing to the great Johnny Chan. Harrington I know writes some great books, but I am focused on guys who play a lot of tournaments and are WSOP bracelet winners in this poll (and guys like John Gale who are both WSOP and WPT champions).

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Below are the stats for one of the people you list above, including 4 main event final tables as well as two bracelets in the same year Not to say that he is the best, but perhaps better than a few that you list in your poll

2006 37th WSOP NLHE 07/23/2006 23rd $18,655.00
2006 Mirage Poker Showdown NLHE Heads Up 05/12/2006 6th $18,624.00
2006 Bay 101 Shooting Star NLHE Championship 03/03/2006 22nd $50,000.00
2005 Festa al Lago IV's North American Poker Championship NLHE 10/21/2005 2nd $620,730.00
2005 World Poker Challenge NLHE Championship 04/01/2005 22nd $10,352.00
2005 L.A. Poker Classic NLHE Championship 02/22/2005 17th $36,165.00
2004 World Poker Finals NLHE Multiplay 11/19/2004 4th $45,000.00
2004 35th WSOP NLHE Main Event 05/28/2004 4th $1,500,000.00
2004 2nd Annual Five-Star World Poker Classic WPT NLHE Championship 04/23/2004 21st $49,899.00
2003 Four Queens Poker Classic NLHE - Main Event 10/05/2003 5th $25,875.00
2003 Borgata Poker Open - WPT 09/19/2003 5th $7,785.00
34th WSOP 2003 Main Event 05/23/2003 3rd $650,000.00
28th WSOP 1997 NLHE 05/08/1997 17th $5,208.00
27th WSOP 1996 NLHE Main Event 05/16/1996 17th $23,400.00
26th WSOP 1995 NLHE Main Event 05/18/1995 1st $1,000,000.00
26th WSOP 1995 NLHE 05/12/1995 1st $249,000.00
18th WSOP 1987 NLHE Main Event 05/14/1987 6th $43,750.00

total earnings > $4.3M