Did I Get Pwned by Sklansky? - Strange 2-4 Hand

[La Brujita]

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DS's river play on this hand is unjustifiably bad.

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[phish]

Can't understand his river play, unless he misread his hand. Inexcusable otherwise.

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I like everything except the river, there must be some logical reason behind his actions. Perhaps there is something to the story that the OP is leaving out unintentionally that helped David make his decision?

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[Garland]

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But because he was obviously slumming it, and seemed pretty disinterested in the game.

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This is confusing. I don't believe $200/$400 is "slumming it" for him (or most people). Are you sure you're not talking about 2/4?

Garland

[PokerBob]

the only thing that i can kind of get behind is the preflop call, in that he has disguised his hand. so, when he flops an ace against an aggressive player, he should be able to pound you because you "know" he can't have an ace because of his preflop complete. the other streets are just gross, especially the river.

[sublime]

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But because he was obviously slumming it, and seemed pretty disinterested in the game.

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This is confusing. I don't believe $200/$400 is "slumming it" for him (or most people). Are you sure you're not talking about 2/4?

Garland

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dude, when you roll like this:



anything under 1k/2k is slumming

[Nate tha\\\' Great]

I've goofed around with open-limping with medium aces in the SB before. Not enough to say that I like it, but I don't hate it either.

I think that, if you are going to open-limp, then betting out on the flop is probably the right play, mainly in the hopes of inducing a bluff raise. On this board, a check-call looks pretty suspicious, and I think will only induce an extra bet out of the opponent on the turn in situations where the opponent is strong enough to have called down / played back anyway.

I don't understand the river play, either. Perhaps he could argue that your range consists only of hands that aren't good enough to call a check-raise, or luckbox hands like T8 that made a straight. But, that wouldn't be a very good argument. Did a flush draw come through on the board or anything?

[Soh]

If DS check-raise, you will call or re-raise with better hands than his hand and fold worse hands than his hands. The only exception is hands like yours (but how can anyone put you on that?)

The only other thing that I can think of is that maybe he was reading sprts section, like horse racing.

[chaosuk]

Not three words I'd expect to utter.

When I looked at his river play I thought it was awful, I still don't like it, but it aint as bad as I thought. It prlly depends upon how straight forward the game is.

He'd likely expect you to raise p/f with an Ace, and bet 2nd or 3rd on the flop. Now you bet the turn. What can you have?
Could it be air; 4-6; 6-8; x-5? Which of these hands stand a a check raise on the river? 9-5 or 6-8 - an inevitable 3 bet.

If his image is such that these are the only hands he will get called by then he is likely right. I'm not sure these 'expectations' on your play add up sufficiently to only make a call, but I don't relate to it, especially on-line: I'd not expect to have an image that elicits such a narrow call range.


edit: also the semi-semi-bluff of 10-8 which ad furher weight to his position.
chaos

[chaosuk]

and maybe J-7 gets played this way too