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Old 07-13-2006, 09:23 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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15k-20k hands is NOTHING

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I don't think I've ever seen a 15k hand downswing at NL, from my stats or anyone I know.

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Old 07-13-2006, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Downswings....

What's a downswing?
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:13 PM
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I hit a downswing when I was playing draws aggressive at hell at NL 200 and getting called by top pair. Lately I have fought variance and played draws nittier and when I miss I check/fold and when I hit a raise/push all in and still get called by top pair.

The real question is, how terrible is it to play draws nitty at NL 200? You rarely get top pair to fold (in fear of you having a set, better kicker, two pair,etc.)

At higher levels I like these aggressive plays to some who wont go broke with top pair...

sorry, just rambling.
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:20 PM
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Im not exactly on a downswing but 20k hands of break even poker is annoying the hell outa me as well. win 4 buyins, drop 3 , win 2, drop 3, etc. I suck! WR of .46 PTBB
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: Downswings....

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I hit a downswing when I was playing draws aggressive at hell at NL 200 and getting called by top pair. Lately I have fought variance and played draws nittier and when I miss I check/fold and when I hit a raise/push all in and still get called by top pair.

The real question is, how terrible is it to play draws nitty at NL 200? You rarely get top pair to fold (in fear of you having a set, better kicker, two pair,etc.)

At higher levels I like these aggressive plays to some who wont go broke with top pair...

sorry, just rambling.

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This kinda happened to me in April/May. I was playing draws and other such hands too aggressively. Granted I was also experimenting w/ certain plays. I played an assload of hands (like 40,000) and basically won like 2ptbb/hr or something like that. This was 3-4 tabling.

June:I started 5 tabling. I played nittier in certain spots pf and post flop, yet keeping my VPIP/PFR where I want it. I have been killing it since. Not to factor out the fact my game improved dramatically since then. But yeah, variance is gonna be there. Just analyze where your money is going.

Controlling tilt and table selection was a HUGE factor on my good run.

And 4-6 buy in downswings in like an hour of play were not uncommon.

This was all at $200nl
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Downswings....

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I hit a downswing when I was playing draws aggressive at hell at NL 200 and getting called by top pair. Lately I have fought variance and played draws nittier and when I miss I check/fold and when I hit a raise/push all in and still get called by top pair.

The real question is, how terrible is it to play draws nitty at NL 200? You rarely get top pair to fold (in fear of you having a set, better kicker, two pair,etc.)

At higher levels I like these aggressive plays to some who wont go broke with top pair...

sorry, just rambling.

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This kinda happened to me in April/May. I was playing draws and other such hands too aggressively. Granted I was also experimenting w/ certain plays. I played an assload of hands (like 40,000) and basically won like 2ptbb/hr or something like that. This was 3-4 tabling.

June:I started 5 tabling. I played nittier in certain spots pf and post flop, yet keeping my VPIP/PFR where I want it. I have been killing it since. Not to factor out the fact my game improved dramatically since then. But yeah, variance is gonna be there. Just analyze where your money is going.

Controlling tilt and table selection was a HUGE factor on my good run.

And 4-6 buy in downswings in like an hour of play were not uncommon.

This was all at $200nl

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great avatar....hey peter hows it going. hmmmmm im gonan need you to come in tomorrow, we need to catch up on some work....mmm kay....thanks a bunch
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:46 PM
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I had a 20 bi downswing this month (10 at 3/6 and 10 at 2/4) and just now recovered. The downswing happened over a 8-10k hand stretch and ive played around 9k since then or so and am back to where i was on like the 4th of the month.

One thing that helped me was to just import hands and not have my "Ring Game Stats" up so that I couldn;t check if I wsa up/down or whatever. This made it easier for me to think about each hand individually. ALso make sure that you are not thinking about trying to "get even" and just treat each session separately.
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:50 PM
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if ure getting stackd in a lot over overpair v set situations that are basically impossible to get away from, then w/e... 7 or 8 of those could easily happen in 15k hands, just chill out and keep grinding it out...

you could also move down a limit and beat on some worse players to get ure confidence up (which is what the issue sounds like)
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Old 07-14-2006, 12:12 AM
Gary Stevenson Gary Stevenson is offline
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i had a ~7k downswing at 400nl FR over a 2.5 week span of ~25k hands...that wasn't fun. Worst part was, i was running the worst i ever had in my life and playing the highest volume of hands i ever had at the same time...this is a terrible combo (simple right?...not when you're losing). Best thing to do...at least for me, was to read a lot of 2+2 and post hands, i made a couple very minor adjustments, like getting better value out of big hands and other stuff and it helped a lot. I also tried to take some time off from poker (read: 3 days off maybe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]), this helped to just clear my head and refocus. I also tried playing some STT's for a little while just to change pace and get my mind off nl cash games, i think playing only one game can really burn you out and it gets really boring playing 2.5k+ hands of one game everyday.
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Old 07-14-2006, 02:31 AM
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I had a 20 buy-in downswing yesterday
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