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Old 07-07-2006, 09:23 PM
HLMencken HLMencken is offline
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

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He's still an extremely productive hitter.

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...depending on your definition of productive, right?
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

I'm not a baseball statistics expert, but I'm pretty sure batting average is the most useless mainstream statistic in all of sports.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

I didn't even read the post, just the title.

Your question is faulty. Adam Dunn can hit and does hit.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

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I'm not a baseball statistics expert, but I'm pretty sure batting average is the most useless mainstream statistic in all of sports.

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Obviously every statistic requires some context. BA is no exception. But to think BA is useless is silly. Clearly getting more hits is good and will have a direct correlation to productivity. This doesn't mean it has a total correlation, but its a part of the mix. Just like QB rating is part of the mix in describing a QB's productivity, but doesn't explain everything, nor is it intended to.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

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He's still an extremely productive hitter.

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...depending on your definition of productive, right?

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No, you idiot. By any non-retarded definition of productive, he is in the upper eschelons of productivity.

Mebenhoe, can we ban this moron?
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

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'Elite' to me are hitters like Pujols, Hafner, Cabrera, Manny, Berkman.... OPS machines who hit for average and obp and slugging. Dunn is clearly not a part of that group.

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Is the difference between .265 and .235 that much to make you this upset?
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:46 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

Well yeah. But if you sort quarterbacks by QB rating you get a pretty good list from the best to the worst. It's not perfect, but it's reasonable.

If you sort hitters by batting average, the list you come up with is horrible an doesn't even remotely resemble a list of who the best hitters are.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

He's 6'6", with an upright stance, and looping swing.

Not that tough to figure out. If he crouched more, and shortened his swing, he could develop into a .275 hitter after a couple years, but his power would drop. People that are invested in him don't think this is a worthy venture.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:49 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

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He's still an extremely productive hitter.

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...depending on your definition of productive, right?

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No, you idiot. By any non-retarded definition of productive, he is in the upper eschelons of productivity.

Mebenhoe, can we ban this moron?

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This reaction is totally uncalled for.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: Why can\'t Adam Dunn hit?

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'Elite' to me are hitters like Pujols, Hafner, Cabrera, Manny, Berkman.... OPS machines who hit for average and obp and slugging. Dunn is clearly not a part of that group.

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Is the difference between .265 and .235 that much to make you this upset?

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upset? and which of those guys are hitting .265? (i don't have stats in front of me)
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