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Old 06-26-2006, 01:57 PM
The Don The Don is offline
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Sirob loves to donk off his stack in L1/2, a river checkraise is definitely the best value here. I must add that calling the CR versus not only a highly obvious flush but also an extremely tight TAG is pretty bad.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:58 PM
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Well of course his call is downright dreadful! He has maybe 0% chance to be ahead?
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:59 PM
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Sirob loves to donk off his stack in L1/2, a river checkraise is definitely the best value here. I must add that calling the CR versus not only a highly obvious flush but also an extremely tight TAG is pretty bad.

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Kind of funny...

Over 528 hands with Sirob in the past mth or so, I have him at a 40 % VPIP @ lev1
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:28 PM
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main thing is that when I checked I didn't feel like I knew where I stood (was a bit scared of turn min raiser once that jack comes), but after the action I felt everything was clear.

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How do you know you are ahead when he bet t300, which is about 1/3 of the pot(pot=t840)? do you push if he bets >1/2 pot? do you call if he pushes? and, on the villian's side, how much should he bet if he has a full house (e.g., KJ)?
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:30 PM
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main thing is that when I checked I didn't feel like I knew where I stood (was a bit scared of turn min raiser once that jack comes), but after the action I felt everything was clear.

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How do you know you are ahead when he bet t300, which is about 1/3 of the pot(pot=t840)? do you push if he bets >1/2 pot? do you call if he pushes? and, on the villian's side, how much should he bet if he has a full house (e.g., KJ)?

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Because none of his action makes any sense if you assume he had 2 pair or a set on the turn.
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:31 PM
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I don't like the turn call unless you're sure that you get paid off huge on the river if the club hits.
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:40 PM
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main thing is that when I checked I didn't feel like I knew where I stood (was a bit scared of turn min raiser once that jack comes), but after the action I felt everything was clear.

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How do you know you are ahead when he bet t300, which is about 1/3 of the pot(pot=t840)? do you push if he bets >1/2 pot? do you call if he pushes? and, on the villian's side, how much should he bet if he has a full house (e.g., KJ)?

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Because none of his action makes any sense if you assume he had 2 pair or a set on the turn.

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it is hard for me(me at least) to figure out if his action makes any sense or not when multi-tabling.

if he is a donk, he might think his set is nuts and tries to slow play it on turn?
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Old 06-26-2006, 03:41 PM
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I don't like the turn call unless you're sure that you get paid off huge on the river if the club hits.

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Really? You're getting pretty close to direct odds to call it, and it's probably pretty rare that you won't get paid at least marginally more when you do hit.
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:00 PM
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I don't like the turn call unless you're sure that you get paid off huge on the river if the club hits.

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Really? You're getting pretty close to direct odds to call it, and it's probably pretty rare that you won't get paid at least marginally more when you do hit.

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He is squeezed in between the bettor and the min raiser so that kind of sucks, but I wont pretend I throw it away either. When cold calling you scream draw so after sirob failed to reraise when it came back to him, two pair and set nearly disappeared from his range. Thus, I like the check-raise.
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:02 PM
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This is exactly what happens when I play. Except the guy calls and turns over KJo...or 22 or 44...
Wait you won?????
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