Messy isolation hand, live 15/30

[Bill King]

yeah guys like this dont really get tricky often, that was the point i was trying to make.

from my experience, players of this description mostly c/r when they are very strong. especially when he follows up his c/r with a bet on all streets.

[VORP]

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Does anybody like checking the flop here? seems like this is a pretty bad flop. Call the turn and the re evalute on the river?

I know this isnt standard but trying to look at other avenues.

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I think betting the flop is pretty necesary. There are a ton of hands I don't want to give a free card to, plus betting likely gives me the option to check behind on a bad turn card. Plus, getting c/r'd isn't the end of the world since I have enough of a hand to call another bet.

[VORP]

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hmmm.. how about a 3bet on the flop. especially if he'll play weakly with a queen there..

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Is that for a free card??

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mostly value, but possible free card depending on turn, more likely i'd bet the turn and take a free showdown UI.

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I think this line does a good job of controlling the hand in this situation. Against this opponent Bill King pretty much nailed it:

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i think that so far, he has been a pretty non-tricky player from the description, and when someone plays pretty tight/weak, and they make a big hand, the first thing they think about is "get more money in how? check raise!"

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In the actual hand I called the river and he had 99 for a flopped set. It looks like against most opponents 3-bet flop, bet turn, and check river would be a strong line. Against weak/tighties probably just call flop and turn and fold the river UI.