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Old 06-23-2006, 01:39 PM
Evan Evan is offline
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

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Looks pretty good except that I skipped stage 4.

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Seriously. Let's go back to stage 3 and try again.

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you're lucky evan. you ran bad enough that you got discouraged and went the job route. i'd trade places with you right now in a heartbeat. you stalled in stage 3 but you can choose to keep going if you wish

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So why don't you go get a job? You have a degree from an Ivy League school and presumably some connections around Nyew York. I'm sure you could find something you didn't hate doing that would at least supliment the money you make at poker and relieve some of the stress of being a pro.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:45 PM
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6. this i call the "in too deep" stage. player now dislikes poker immensely. but he realizes that making money will never be so easy, so he has no choice but to keep playing. and he can't just play at a leisurely rate. he realizes that he will regret every second he didn't spend playing poker, so he is now forced to play everyday, as much as possible. once the player reaches this stage he is trapped. no one can escape the appeal of many hundreds an hour and the possibility of early retirement. but a bad session can ruin a day.


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If you really are making "many hundreds an hour" you can play at a leisurely rate and still make enough for early retirement within 2 or 3 years. I'm not sure why that option isn't good enough. The bitch is if you are making a 'mere' $200/hr or so. It's high enough that you know that IF YOU COULD SUSTAIN IT, playing a TON will get you to early retirement in 5 years, but leisurely playing, while putting a huge wad in your pocket, won't.

Of course, if you hate every moment of it, and a bad session really ruins your day, I'd worry more about going busto -- monetarily and/or mentally -- than making enough $$ for early retirement.

(Note: I'm assuming that you need a cool mil in the bank for early retirement, as I'm assuming that even after you retire you'll still play a little poker/do some smart investing/etc., so you'll still have income coming in. If "early retirement" really means absolutely no work at all of any sort, obviously you'll need more.)
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

Wow - Soooo true....I am in 5/6 limbo land...

Poker defo isn't enjoyable for me at the moment !
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

i agree w/ this too. i'm close to quit now due to it. haven't played more than 1000 hands in 2 months.

i think when i rejoin it i'll rejoin at stage 4, less tables, lower stakes, more fun. hopefully not caring about the missed out money and early retirement as i could happily do stage 4 all my life, Tommy style.

it would be interesting to see what ray zee makes of this.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:49 PM
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

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7. poker consumes player and he eventually becomes completely miserable, hating every second from the time the first table is opened until the last one is closed



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Its like that one motherfukkin ring. Its consumed you! Its all you think about! You barely eat! You barely sleep! Cant you see what its doing to you Mr Josh? Cant ya?
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

lol I like this post and the original when I first read it.

I think i'm in the like 5.25 stage still happy even during the brutal swings ( not as happy obviously [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) and not ultra concerned with moving up beyond the juicy 5-10 games asap ( probably becuz I spend all my RB on expenses)

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Old 06-23-2006, 01:55 PM
Sack Lodge Sack Lodge is offline
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

HOW THE [censored] DID I SKIP STEP 4? GOD I HATE POKER
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

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The bitch is if you are making a 'mere' $200/hr or so. It's high enough that you know that IF YOU COULD SUSTAIN IT, playing a TON will get you to early retirement in 5 years

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The New Yorker in me is LMAO at this prospect. Even if you ran that well for 5 years you would have made enough money to be not terribly well off. Retirement? Fuhgedaboudit.

Of course, in other non-absurd cities, your mileage will vary greatly.
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Old 06-23-2006, 01:59 PM
kidcolin kidcolin is offline
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

So you're young.

You make an assload.

You live in NYC.

You've got a great education.

Yeah sounds pretty rough. Play less, get a job. You'll find some non-poker mental stimulation is good for you.

Look, I make 65K a year at my job. I get in and out of playing lots based on how I'm doing. If I play enough, I'll maybe net 20 or 25K from poker. If I'm lucky I'll move up and make a little more. If I run bad or just don't play enough, maybe 10-15K. And you know what? Being 24 and making 80-90K is OK with me. I'm sure you can make much more than that given your credentials and the amount you could pull in playing leisurally.

Given your position, there's just no excuse to be miserable about it.
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Old 06-23-2006, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: my version of ray zee\'s \"the different stages in a player\'s life\"

I started at 3 - went backwards to 1 then jumped to 5.
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