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Old 06-22-2006, 02:56 PM
The DaveR The DaveR is offline
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

It does, but it doesn't imply that he will bet with some middle pair hand. He will bet those on the turn, however, I think.
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Old 06-22-2006, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

Also even if he checks the turn he was going to fold probably and we have successfully made our AA look like AK which is important because we'll have AK a lot more - stolen from Andyfox.

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Old 06-22-2006, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

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It does, but it doesn't imply that he will bet with some middle pair hand. He will bet those on the turn, however, I think.

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I thought we've concluded that he doesn't have a pair after the flop because he didn't raise. So I guess I'm not sure what you are saying....

my point anyway is that after my turn bet I think he has some sort of JT, QJ, KJ hand the vast majority of the time.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

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Also even if he checks the turn he was going to fold probably and we have successfully made our AA look like AK which is important because we'll have AK a lot more - stolen from Andyfox.

-DeathDonkey

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Yes I agree with this, and it's a good argument for the turn checkraise. AFter I chose to bet the turn, however, what do you think of the river cr?
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Old 06-22-2006, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

I think this is Jerry and I do not ever see him paying off the river CR and see him checking behind almost always due to flop action.
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Old 06-23-2006, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

What do you mean flop action? I bet the flop after raising pf.

AFter that, I get one caller, and I continuation bet the turn, and then I checked the river. I'm not representing a pair, let alone a monster.
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Old 06-23-2006, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

FWIW George, I am following what you are saying in this thread but it seems nobody else is. I can't figure out why not. I am also having a hard time with which hands here he calls the turn with that can't find a bet with on the river. Seems to me a player with these characteristics has a pair and it should really be top pair. I am really interested to know what his hand was so hopefully we will get to know.
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Old 06-23-2006, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

Bet the river don't cr here. What is a prop?
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Old 06-23-2006, 11:11 AM
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Bet the river don't cr here. What is a prop?

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You may want to give some reasoning to support your statement.

A prop is someone paid by the casino to play in the games and keep the games from breaking when they get short or start new games. They usually play with their own money.
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Old 06-23-2006, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: river checkraise vs. a bay101 prop

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It does, but it doesn't imply that he will bet with some middle pair hand. He will bet those on the turn, however, I think.

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I thought we've concluded that he doesn't have a pair after the flop because he didn't raise. So I guess I'm not sure what you are saying....

my point anyway is that after my turn bet I think he has some sort of JT, QJ, KJ hand the vast majority of the time.

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I guess. But he still has to bet those hands, and from what I remember about him and that typical 20 game texture there, I don't think he's betting those hands very much on the river, whereas he'll bet everything on the turn to try to take the pot.
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