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Old 06-07-2006, 09:17 PM
Ansky Ansky is offline
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

Word. I'm probably wrong. God damn cash games making me fold top pair too much...
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Old 06-07-2006, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

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I call.You guys are giveing sheets too much credit for a big hand its most likely a big to decent draw. If he thinks the player will consider folding AJ here he going to be pushing you around with a lot, and by even just posting this hand im guesssing he had a read that you would fold a lot of hands to his push here.

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pretty much my exact reasoning for the call.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

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Word. I'm probably wrong. God damn cash games making me fold top pair too much...

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Yeah in a cash game this is a set or big draw all the time.
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I lost a 4k pot at 10/20 making a semi-donkament flop move. Whoops.
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Old 06-08-2006, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

sheets doesnt do this with a worse ace than AJ I think, nor does he flat pre.

this smells most of 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], like T7spades.

he also does this with 77 and 22.

i think he takes a different line with AQ, AK.

He figures you for a CB that will fold to a cr allin, or a strong ace that will call. i think a set doesnt do this too often?

after thinking it through i would call, but I know for a fact I'm either ahead a little, or a big dog. it just seems sheets would only use this line with a big draw, if he has a set gg.
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Old 06-08-2006, 05:01 AM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

I agree his most likely holding are a set or a draw and not top pair.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

Yea, it's a post flop coinflip or worse

Sheets has like 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or better (set)


Edit: *chuckle..clayton...T7...oh man
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

I call quick here. Sheets is never going to c/r all in this big with AK/AQ/two pair/sets here. Pretty much the what 'better hands fold and what worse hands call', especially if he knows you're a 2+2er.

edit: I would also call with KK here.

edit: my mistake, he is def. capable of doing this with relative monsters like sets (two pair very unlikely). However, I think that he has AK/AQ a very slim portion of the time. All I'm saying is that I'm never giving him credit for an A.

edit 3: more stuff. I'm not saying that AK/AQ is out of his range for calling preflop (a lot of good players will certainly mix it up by calling with these hands a certain % of the time and re-raising some % of the time). however, given the flop action, I think AK/AQ becomes very improbable.
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

its closer than u guys are making it out to be, I know that if he pushed vs me here it would be -EV it call.
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:22 AM
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its closer than u guys are making it out to be, I know that if he pushed vs me here it would be -EV it call.

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why's that?
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:35 AM
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Default Re: $320 hand vs. sheets

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its closer than u guys are making it out to be, I know that if he pushed vs me here it would be -EV it call.

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Roman,

I think he almost always raises AK preflop, and at least some of the time with AQ. And when he has AQ I don't know if he plays the flop that way. I'd fear 77, but I feel like a KsQs type hand is fairly likely.
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