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Old 06-06-2006, 05:37 PM
Dan. Dan. is offline
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

Hahaha, I read that as JJ, and I was like "wtf is wrong with everyone?!"

I'd fold it if I'd been agressive, limp otherwise for the pot odds and your stack isn't so bad yet.
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

No this is not a push for me.
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

Why would you fold this give the pot odds and position, what am I missing?
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

Without consulting SNGPT fold.

After consulting SNGPT using 40% as the calling range it looks to be a fold. I think 40% is pretty accurate barring a read.
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:00 PM
C. O. Jones C. O. Jones is offline
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

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Without consulting SNGPT fold.

After consulting SNGPT using 40% as the calling range it looks to be a fold. I think 40% is pretty accurate barring a read.

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Really? 40% sounds pretty loose to me for the average player there, unless I have been doing a lot of pushing recently.
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

Punch 40% into SNGPT and convert. You get 22+,A2+,K2+,Q9o+,Q5s+,JTo,J8s+,T9s

I routinely get called by all of these hands in these situations. Although I would make it K6+ at the above range its -.3 at the above range modified to be K6+ it's -.1

This is only +EV against a very tight opponent, and since OP gave no reads I have to assume the opponent is average and will call with a pretty average range
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

no
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

Most people underpush and undercall HU. There are a couple of threads on the FAQ which are well worth reading. If I recall, the strategy of just pushing all-in every hand is not so bad, and most people do not play as good a strategy as that, many by a large margin. Check out the FAQ!
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Old 06-06-2006, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: $16..Don\'t Check SNGPT (I already did) is this a push for you?

I would push this against all but the loosest callers.
However, if opp will raise less than half of his hands here, completing is better.
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