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Old 05-31-2006, 10:51 PM
BigSoonerFan BigSoonerFan is offline
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The Yankees are the worst team.

Oh, we aren't talking about wins/dollar?
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Old 05-31-2006, 10:58 PM
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The Yankees are the worst team.

Oh, we aren't talking about wins/dollar?

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shouldn't we talking about fan/win?
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:14 PM
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The Yankees are the worst team.

Oh, we aren't talking about wins/dollar?

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Well if you want to include payroll, I would say the Cubs are a bigger failure at this point than the Yankees. The Cubs have the highest payroll in the NL central and are a game and a half from last place...
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:09 AM
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OBP the last six years:
.310
.303
.290
.388
.303
.294

SLG:
.411
.426
.424
.629
.413
.300

So he's a little down this year. But the peculiar year was his contract year with the Dodgers. It's doubtful he'll ever do that again. The other numbers are his norm.

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For the record, I don't get all bent out of shape when a guy struggles at the plate and I don't blame Beltre or Sexson for the M's woes. I don't get upset when a guy throws a ball away or has one bounce off of the top of his head and over the fence for a homer. When stupidity rears its ugly head, I get irritated.
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Old 05-31-2006, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Worst team in baseball?

i haven't watched many mariners games not started by king felix, but the idea that their baserunning could possibly be worse than the cubs' strikes me as laughable. i wish mlb.com had searchable video for jones, alou and patterson getting thrown out on the bases in the past few years.

if a little league team got its baserunners thrown out on the bases all the time, i would blame the coaches for not teaching the players the fundamentals of baseball. just a thought.
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Old 06-01-2006, 02:59 AM
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i haven't watched many mariners games not started by king felix, but the idea that their baserunning could possibly be worse than the cubs' strikes me as laughable. i wish mlb.com had searchable video for jones, alou and patterson getting thrown out on the bases in the past few years.

if a little league team got its baserunners thrown out on the bases all the time, i would blame the coaches for not teaching the players the fundamentals of baseball. just a thought.

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I haven't re-read my OP, but I think I qualified it by admitting extreme bias. I don't see many KC games and I knew that my post would generate a bunch of "KC is worse" replies, but it's frustrating to watch a bunch of guys who are being paid million$ play such thoughtless ball. Your little league analogy is right on the mark--that's what came to my mind too, but shouldn't these guys be a few steps above having to re-learn the basics? I expect that I'll be a little league coach within the next few years and one of the things I'll teach them is to have a plan when they step into the box--the Lopez squeeze play indicates to me that he isn't a thinking player. Ichiro has been absolutely awful on the basepaths. I have watched the M's 3rd base coach wave guys in that have no shot at being safe. The incompetence is maddening. I became aware that baseball is a thinking man's game when I was 15. I was playing in the city championship game and in the on-deck circle when my coach grabbed my arm and said "Swing over the first pitch as hard as you can, no matter how high the pitch is." It never crossed my mind to think about why he might want me to do it. Our pitcher, who was the slowest guy in the league was on first. He stole second and I came within a few inches of tearing the opposing catchers head off with my swing. I wouldn't copy this play at the youth level myself, but there was some bad blood between our teams and I can understand why he had no qualms with the play--they beat us 16-4 a few weeks earlier and were some of the sorest winners I've ever seen. We mercy-ruled them, 10-0, in the final and I went on to be best friends with one of their players in high school.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:34 AM
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Default Re: Worst team in baseball?

How is anyone answering anything besides the Royals here?
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Old 06-01-2006, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Worst team in baseball?

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How is anyone answering anything besides the Royals here?

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Because people think their teams are always either the best or worst. It's really hard for someone to accept the fact that their team isn't anything special.
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:35 PM
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How is anyone answering anything besides the Royals here?

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Because people think their teams are always either the best or worst. It's really hard for someone to accept the fact that their team isn't anything special.

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The correct answer.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:34 AM
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The Royals are the worst team. There are others that can compete for current incompetence, but the Royals trump them all due to the fact that they are starting a bunch of old men that don't belong in the league anymore.
Its one thing to let some unproven youngsters get kicked around in the hope that they get some valuable experience, it is quite another to lose with 30-something journeymen.
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