Party 100 vs Kukavica

[Digs]

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i thought the call was trying to get a 1/2bet at better than 1:1 instead of a whole bet at 1:1

seems like c/ring this board vs a good player really narrows down the hand range he puts you on as well, which really downplays the initiave advantage we get from c/ring the flop ~

[skp]

Funny how we tend to put preflop raisers on AK/AQ. Then, when the board is 5432, we put them on a KK that they will no doubt fold if we bet...heh

I am not saying that your turn bet was bad. In fact, it is quite imaginative. But I am not sure that it is a great play either. If the guy has an ace, he may well jack it up and you are now req'd to pay an extra bet to chase your flush.

But yeah, I do like your play and may well have done the same thing.

[PumaSwede]

Every once in a while I read a hand where someone takes a really clever line, this is one of them. Pro play baby

[veganmav]

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Funny how we tend to put preflop raisers on AK/AQ. Then, when the board is 5432, we put them on a KK that they will no doubt fold if we bet...heh

I am not saying that your turn bet was bad. In fact, it is quite imaginative. But I am not sure that it is a great play either. If the guy has an ace, he may well jack it up and you are now req'd to pay an extra bet to chase your flush.


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i don't see why people like this donk bet on the turn... in hopes that he doesn't have a big ace, and instead has a big pocket pair, that will fold to a turn donk... it just seems like a long shot....

btw... what are the chance that if we check, we get a free card?

[golferbrent]

Are you trying to pot commit yourself so you can call the raise with as you likely could face two cold on turn. I definitely like bluffing with outs here. However, is Kukavica likely to fold here? In my experience he rarely folds here, but you could take it down here.

[Equal]

People are forgetting UTG is still in the hand.

[shmahappens]

When Kukavica raises, we don't put him on AQ or AK. It depends what position he raised from - if it's EP it's 8Js, LP it's 56s.

Anyways - I like the bet, depending on your image. A lot of people go after Kuk from the blinds - so are you the type who would threebet A-high vs him? (most seem to in a heartbeat). He's not gonna fold highcard or pair on the offchance you have a 6, and from the above I doubt he'll put you on Ax.

So I think all he'll fold here that you would lose to is K-high.I hope you hit your flush.

And I love the post about the c/c donk being the new c/r.

[golferbrent]

Some may be forgetting... However, I am not. My question was are you worried if you check it could go bet/raise before it gets to you?

[JeffO]

Both players folded.

My thinking was that Kuka will bet this turn if checked to 100% of the time and since I have no intention of folding, and a check raise can get expensive, why not lead out. More often than not a overpair will call me down. Overcards will fold and an ace may just call down as well since a 6 makes a higher straight.

[OnkelHotte]

does nobody simply C/R the flop? that would be my preferred (standard but fine) line.