Obvious Collusion at *edited* (Long -Cliff Notes at bottom)

[Gabbbbyyyy]

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Oh will you stfu and calm down already. If I was going to do this I would not give you a warning. For someone who claims such a high caliber of intelligence by calling anyone and everyone an idiot you sure as hell don't have any common sense.

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i never claimed i was intelligent, and have regularly posted that i am not very bright. that said, i am much smarter than the average idiot here, and clearly lightyears ahead of you.

if you think tossing around threats about collusion are no big deal, then you are even more of an idiot that i initially thought.

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Ok let's look at thing logically here for a second. The guy comes here obviously very upset he dropped close to a grand. He witnessed some strange play in his opinion. Play he is not used to seeing. He mentions your name as you are one of the only people he knows who regularly plays that limit there. Instead of going off on him you could have made a post that made him feel a bit better and the 1000.00 loss not as bad. No one likes losing. Maybe he played like a jackass, oh well. We all have had losing days and sometimes want some sympathy. I think that is all he came here looking for.

No, instead you overeact add insult to injury, and we have a 150+ response thread.

[HOWMANY]

If he wanted sympathy maybe he should have posted in BBV and complained about losing money instead of coming to B&M and accusing a well respected poster of either being a colluder or a moron?

If a $1000 loss upsets the OP this much he should probably not be playing 30/60 as a rack can be incinerated in about 10 minutes without doing anything wrong. I assumed since he loves to talk about playing 25/50-60/120 in LA that he has lost more than a thousand dollars before so that was not the motivating factor behind his post.

[PokerBob]

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Oh will you stfu and calm down already. If I was going to do this I would not give you a warning. For someone who claims such a high caliber of intelligence by calling anyone and everyone an idiot you sure as hell don't have any common sense.

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i never claimed i was intelligent, and have regularly posted that i am not very bright. that said, i am much smarter than the average idiot here, and clearly lightyears ahead of you.

if you think tossing around threats about collusion are no big deal, then you are even more of an idiot that i initially thought.

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Ok let's look at thing logically here for a second. The guy comes here obviously very upset he dropped close to a grand. He witnessed some strange play in his opinion. Play he is not used to seeing. He mentions your name as you are one of the only people he knows who regularly plays that limit there. Instead of going off on him you could have made a post that made him feel a bit better and the 1000.00 loss not as bad. No one likes losing. Maybe he played like a jackass, oh well. We all have had losing days and sometimes want some sympathy. I think that is all he came here looking for.

No, instead you overeact add insult to injury, and we have a 150+ response thread.

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first of all, the OP does not know me.

this forum is not a shoulder to cry on. if he was sad that he blew his brains, well, too bad. it is part of gambling. this is not the place to come for sympathy.

in one of the first lines he wrote if he hasn't in the past brought up the fact that there is OBVIOUS collusion in that 30-60 game... then he is either involved or has decided not to let anyone know.

he is accusing me of, at the very least, turning a blind eye to blatant cheating. are you really so stupid that you cannot understand why such a statement would piss me off? where do you people come from?

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PokerBob repeatidly said that the two guys that were getting out of line are just Laggy... I never knew that the characteristics of laggy play was 5 bet preflop... then check fold the flop.

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Idiots do stupid things. Thats what makes the game good. Colluders tend to see the river together and split the money in the parking lot, they are generally hesitant to make it obvious on the table.

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That's NOT true at all. I think you are a little off on what you know about the colluding world.

Colluders specifically try NOT to see the river together. They NEVER want to give another player in the hand 2-1 odds to draw out against their best hand.

Furthermore, if they see the river together and someone like myself asks to see both cards... the jig is up if the whole table sees that one of the colluders was jamming it all the way with 2-7 off and/or no pair no draw.

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TT is a moron. Sorry if he does not like it but oh well. I could give a $hit less whether he a mod, or not.

Colluders will never see the river together, PERIOD.

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you are dumb and should be banned.

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Everyone is an idiot to you. You also seem to be acting quite defensive at a simple statement someone made on the internet. Perhaps you are in on the collusion and that is why you are getting os worked up.. SO... How about this.. Someone pm me the details of pokerbob. Just general description. I will call the CC and inform them of my observations that possible collusion might be going on with you.

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accusing someone of cheating is a very serious accusation, not a "simple statement". when people make very serious accusations, i get pissed.

TT and other mods, this guy now has crossed the line. i do not hide who i am or what i look like. this guy is threatening to cast a cloud over me with ZERO evidence. ban this jackass.

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Oh will you stfu and calm down already. If I was going to do this I would not give you a warning. For someone who claims such a high caliber of intelligence by calling anyone and everyone an idiot you sure as hell don't have any common sense.

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Gabbbbyyyy is taking a time out for crossing the line.

[Bicycles_Biatch]

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If he wanted sympathy maybe he should have posted in BBV and complained about losing money instead of coming to B&M and accusing a well respected poster of either being a colluder or a moron?

If a $1000 loss upsets the OP this much he should probably not be playing 30/60 as a rack can be incinerated in about 10 minutes without doing anything wrong. I assumed since he loves to talk about playing 25/50-60/120 in LA that he has lost more than a thousand dollars before so that was not the motivating factor behind his post.

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I couldn't resist...

You're right. The $1,000 was not a big deal. Of course I'd rather have it than not have it. To be VERY honest... I'm a break even player. I put in a lot of hours because I enjoy the games and need a break from my real job. I've played in all kinds of games all over the U.S. And yesterday is the first time in 10 years of play that I've ever felt CHEATED.

For the record... I DON'T think pokerBob was cheating... I just think he isn't unaware of colluding techniques. No offense... but by the admission of TT himself, it wasn't that long ago that several of these players were playing 3-6 limit. Maybe the MN crowd just hasn't seen what colluders can do to a game in a short period of time.

[El Diablo]

BB,

Thanks for this post. Definitely crossing Canterbury off the list on my Minnesota 30-60 LHE poker trip itinerary.

[HOWMANY]

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BB,

Thanks for this post. Definitely crossing Canterbury off the list on my Minnesota 30-60 LHE poker trip itinerary.

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I have heard rumors that Jean Gluck is an expert poker player and that calling 3 cold with 22 in an 80/160 game when deuces are hot is an advanced play. Can you confirm?

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BB,

Thanks for this post. Definitely crossing Canterbury off the list on my Minnesota 30-60 LHE poker trip itinerary.

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lol, ha ha ha.

[Aces McGee]

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He witnessed some strange play in his opinion

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If all he had done was post about strange play, this thread would have proceeded much more civilly (and constructively).

Instead of saying "Hey guys, I saw some funny stuff going on at Canterbury, what do you think?" he asserted that team play at Canterbury was rampant, and (unintentionally, I think) implicated a host of 2+2ers.

-McGee

[Victor]

"What are the chances of the main game loosing 4 players at the exact same time unless all of these players that racked up were working together?!?"

first and only time i played at commerce i ran up 3 racks at 40/80 and when i sat out to rack up bc i had a flight soon ALL 8 PLAYERS sat out too.

my only conclusion is that they were all colluding and cheating against me and i woulda won at least 10 racks otherwise. fckn rigged la cardrooms.