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Old 06-03-2007, 05:21 PM
Monolith Monolith is offline
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Default Re: Can someone explain the health care \'crisis\' to me?

do you make minimum wage? if you did, you wouldn't have access to affordable health care, and, when you only make 7 or 8 bucks an hour, you can't afford to go to the doc...jeez, think beyond your own nose...
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Can someone explain the health care \'crisis\' to me?

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do you make minimum wage? if you did, you wouldn't have access to affordable health care, and, when you only make 7 or 8 bucks an hour, you can't afford to go to the doc...jeez, think beyond your own nose...

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You're forgetting that it's the worker's fault for having a minimum wage job.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Can someone explain the health care \'crisis\' to me?

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do you make minimum wage? if you did, you wouldn't have access to affordable health care, and, when you only make 7 or 8 bucks an hour, you can't afford to go to the doc...jeez, think beyond your own nose...

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Sounds like a great incentive to do a good job so you aren't stuck making minimum wage very long.

The minimum wage is a myth, its a fake number to make it look like politicians care about the lower financial rung people.

Where I live, even McDonalds starts you out higher than the min wage if you have any basic skills. The only people who would ever work for it are first job kids.

The minimum wage was not designed to raise a family of four on. To think large numbers of Americans do this, is to believe the soup line America portrait John Edwards likes to paint. It just aint so, and we dont have millions of people dying outside the hospital because they are being refused treatment for lack of insurance.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Can someone explain the health care \'crisis\' to me?

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do you make minimum wage? if you did, you wouldn't have access to affordable health care, and, when you only make 7 or 8 bucks an hour, you can't afford to go to the doc...jeez, think beyond your own nose...

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You're forgetting that it's the worker's fault for having a minimum wage job.

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Is it MY fault?
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:54 PM
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do you make minimum wage? if you did, you wouldn't have access to affordable health care, and, when you only make 7 or 8 bucks an hour, you can't afford to go to the doc...jeez, think beyond your own nose...

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You're forgetting that it's the worker's fault for having a minimum wage job.

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Is it MY fault?

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No, I just said it was the worker's fault.
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Old 06-03-2007, 05:59 PM
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do you make minimum wage? if you did, you wouldn't have access to affordable health care, and, when you only make 7 or 8 bucks an hour, you can't afford to go to the doc...jeez, think beyond your own nose...

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You're forgetting that it's the worker's fault for having a minimum wage job.

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Is it MY fault?

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No, I just said it was the worker's fault.

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Yeah, i'm able to understand sarcasm when i read it. How is it my fault that a worker has a minimum wage job? and if its not my fault why should i buy health insurance for him?
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:12 PM
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Yeah, i'm able to understand sarcasm when i read it. How is it my fault that a worker has a minimum wage job? and if its not my fault why should i buy health insurance for him?

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Do you think it's the average mexicans fault that they are dirt poor? I'm talking about the mexicans who live in the country of mexico.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:20 PM
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Yeah, i'm able to understand sarcasm when i read it. How is it my fault that a worker has a minimum wage job? and if its not my fault why should i buy health insurance for him?

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Do you think it's the average mexicans fault that they are dirt poor? I'm talking about the mexicans who live in the country of mexico.

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As a generilization, no its not their fault. Is it my fault?
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:57 PM
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Do you think it's the average mexicans fault that they are dirt poor? I'm talking about the mexicans who live in the country of mexico.



As a generilization, no its not their fault. Is it my fault?

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I'm suggesting that sometimes, as in the case of mexico and its elite ruling class and the rest being very poor, it's a systemic thing.

Not sure about the average low wage earner in the US to be honest. But I think saying it's the workers fault for being poor is somewhat naive as a sweeping generalization, which is easy to see by looking at mexican peasants.

As far as you paying, well, that's like a less poor mexican peasant complaining that he has to pay for a dirt poor mexican peasant; while it's probably a very valid point in and of itself, it leaves out the main point of the elite ruling class and the systemic exploitation.
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Old 06-03-2007, 10:43 PM
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Do you think it's the average mexicans fault that they are dirt poor? I'm talking about the mexicans who live in the country of mexico.



As a generilization, no its not their fault. Is it my fault?

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I'm suggesting that sometimes, as in the case of mexico and its elite ruling class and the rest being very poor, it's a systemic thing.

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Yes. And Tolbiny, among others, is constantly attacking that very system.
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