Donkey Test

[thoman8r]

I chose the "Raise 10%, call 80%, fold 10%" option although IRL I think for me it's split closer to 33/33/33.

I think always raising is a mistake, eventually your opponent will catch on and start re-raising you off these kind of hands. But I do think raising some of the time is a good idea, particularly to encourage him to play back at your raises when you have a strong holding.

[cheburashka]

Anybody who chose one of the other options care to comment?

[tlw1230x]

i chose flat call, but I see the logic in 10/80/10, though I still don't think i would apply it to 84o.

i would always call b/c of the odds but i think id rather save my 10/80/10 spread for slightly better hands; suited atc, or connectors like 56o

[Fiepoto]

<u>Question 26</u>:
Single table tournament. Blinds 100-200. You have 1000 chips. Everyone at the table has about 5000 chips. You're in middle position and it is folded to you.

You hold: 10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]


What should you do?
Fold
Raise
All-in
Call

[Fiepoto]

with no other info, this is always a fold IMO.

[RapidEvolution]

I think if I had tight players left to act I'd push here given my low M and the fact that everyone else is even and doesn't want to call and get dragged down.

[cheburashka]

You have an M of 3, and a chance to open? I'm pushing any two cards.

[cheburashka]

By the way, if you reply to the original post, you can add a survey.

Question 26:
Single table tournament. Blinds 100-200. You have 1000 chips. Everyone at the table has about 5000 chips. You're in middle position and it is folded to you.

You hold: 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

[gedanken]

This is a very straightforward "all-in preflop equity" question. Shorter than the other players, we have very little fold equity, so we can expect that our shove will likely get called and have to win a showdown. With only 5BB, we're well into fold-or-shove territory.

We do, however, have 3 orbits worth of blinds left, so we can afford to wait for a hand in what, the top 20%?

T3o is well below average in terms of all-in preflop equity, even against a random hand. If I were going to be put all-in on the next hand by the big blind, I'd fold T3 and take the random hand instead.

[cheburashka]

[ QUOTE ]
This is a very straightforward "all-in preflop equity" question. Shorter than the other players, we have very little fold equity, so we can expect that our shove will likely get called and have to win a showdown. With only 5BB, we're well into fold-or-shove territory.

We do, however, have 3 orbits worth of blinds left, so we can afford to wait for a hand in what, the top 20%?

T3o is well below average in terms of all-in preflop equity, even against a random hand. If I were going to be put all-in on the next hand by the big blind, I'd fold T3 and take the random hand instead.

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I dunno, and I'd like to hear some other opinions (Kip, are you going to weigh in on this one?)

Certainly you are correct that T3o is a worse-than-average hand, and if the hand were all that mattered you would obviously be right. However, it seems to me that the fact that the hand has been folded to us in middle position is very important here. How likely are we before the blinds come to have the opportunity to open? Also, I think you're much too quick to say that we have no fold equity--are the remaining players really going to be so quick to risk 20% of their stacks?

I recently posted a similar hand on MTT, and I asked "What range should I shove with?" Some people said ATC, others defined a range that was pretty wide, but certainly did not include T3o.