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Old 02-03-2007, 04:40 PM
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man i just realized how easy and stress free nl50. i honestly didnt get upset or pissed about losing n e hands and was able to mkae bigger laydowns much easier. i need to translate this to 100nl. sigh. i need to get better about mental things dang it
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:43 PM
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Full Tilt Poker
$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (BTN): $26.85
SB: $27.6
BB: $24.75
UTG: $36.20
MP: $44.35
CO: $32.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q J ($0.35, 6 players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $1

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.85, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, UTG calls $2

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [Q] ($6.85, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $4.50</font>, UTG calls $4.50

<font color="black">River:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($15.85, 2 players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $10</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $10 returned to UTG

I can't call that right? Villain is a 53/3 tard that I'm trying to isolate.
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:46 PM
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man i just realized how easy and stress free nl50. i honestly didnt get upset or pissed about losing n e hands and was able to mkae bigger laydowns much easier. i need to translate this to 100nl. sigh. i need to get better about mental things dang it

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That's how I feel about 25nl from 50nl.. guess it's just cause you're used to losing pots twice the size.
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:58 PM
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man i just realized how easy and stress free nl50. i honestly didnt get upset or pissed about losing n e hands and was able to mkae bigger laydowns much easier. i need to translate this to 100nl. sigh. i need to get better about mental things dang it

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That's how I feel about 25nl from 50nl.. guess it's just cause you're used to losing pots twice the size.

[/ QUOTE ]yea that is EXACTLY it. im like awww 25 buck pot i dont give a [censored] u luck box. holla. lol.

BEAT: i pay 75 cent to dry my cloths and split my laundry into 3 dryers. i come back and all [censored] 3 loads R WETTER (dont even kno if that is a word) then when i left. WTF!!!?!?!?!?!?
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:07 PM
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its 12 degrees out.

deck&gt;outside in terms of cold for EMc
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:11 PM
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Where you from Ed? It's -8 windchill here in Ohio, at least the last time I checked.
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:23 PM
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And the downswing continues.... Feb sucks...





Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
hero: $26
UTG+1: $24.75
CO: $18.80
Button: $38.55
SB: $44.60
BB: $116.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $3.35</font>, 4 folds, hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($7.05, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $22.05</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in $16.4</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.65 returned to hero.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($49.85, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.85)


River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($49.85, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.85)


Results:
Final pot: $49.85
<font color="#ffffff">hero showed Kd Ks</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 showed Ac As</font>

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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $43.60
hero: $25.15
CO: $22.85
Button: $36.05
SB: $25.15
BB: $26.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $2</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $5</font>, CO calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16.35, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $4</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $24.35
<font color="#ffffff">CO showed 7h 8h</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero mucks Ad Jd</font>
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:27 PM
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Fido is that big swing up at the end where you stacked me? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Glad I could help.










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Old 02-03-2007, 05:28 PM
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Where you from Ed? It's -8 windchill here in Ohio, at least the last time I checked.

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-4 here...WC= -26 swwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeet
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:34 PM
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And the downswing continues.... Feb sucks...





Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
hero: $26
UTG+1: $24.75
CO: $18.80
Button: $38.55
SB: $44.60
BB: $116.05

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $3.35</font>, 4 folds, hero calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($7.05, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $22.05</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in $16.4</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.65 returned to hero.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($49.85, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.85)


River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($49.85, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.85)


Results:
Final pot: $49.85
<font color="#ffffff">hero showed Kd Ks</font>
<font color="#ffffff">UTG+1 showed Ac As</font>

------------------------------------------------------


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $43.60
hero: $25.15
CO: $22.85
Button: $36.05
SB: $25.15
BB: $26.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $1</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $2</font>, CO calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($6.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets $5</font>, CO calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16.35, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $4</font>, hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $24.35
<font color="#ffffff">CO showed 7h 8h</font>
<font color="#ffffff">hero mucks Ad Jd</font>

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think it might have been better to reraise him pf (the KK hand)? And folding to that river bet on that AJ board might be good, although i'm not really faulting you for not. His bet looks too much like a value please call me, on a very scary board where TP doesn't win as much anymore.

I see it like you charged him to draw, which is what it looks like what he was doing when you recall his action, so don't pay him off when he hits. You could still also be losing to alot of two pairs. Basically he called a big bet in a big pot on the turn in the face of an Ace, which means he's trying to play a big hand, bigger than any pair (he's not scared of the ace). This is also considering he limped utg PF and called the whole way. If he limped a strong hand like KK or big overs he probably would have done more on the flop, especially one like that. So on that kind of a low drawy board the odds that it hit him harder than you is high. It's possible you win this much less than 20% of the time.

Perhaps betting the river and folding to a raise is better than calling in this instance if you're gonna call a thin value bet anyway, to weed out those who will try to bluff like this with their missed straight draw in the long run. You can bet lighter if you think you'd call light, like say 3 instead of 4, and fold with more confidence to a raise. Not sure about this though, I guess a missed straight draw could just go all in on a weak bet in a scary board and you wouldn't be able to call.
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