Why you guys aren't crushing these Microlimit games...

[Eeegah]

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u´re

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This fills me with rage.

[Magellan]

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u´re

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This fills me with rage.

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Tell me about it, everyone knows it's "ur" and not "u're" in this context.

[bozlax]

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u´re

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This fills me with rage.

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Throw in this little nugget:

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lot´s

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An'd I'm read'y t'o sli'ng a rop'e o'ver th'e raft'er a'nd ha'ng somebod'y.

[VoraciousReader]

Ahem.

Reged: 12/19/05
Posts: 18
Loc: Sweden

[marchron]

Okay, that lets him off the hook for lot's.

But u're is still -EV English, I don't give a fØØk whether he's Swedish or not.

[IDN101]

I’m just at the stage where I have tightened up considerably on my starting hand selection. This in itself (and some basic post-flop awareness) is allowing me to hold my head above water (in fact make a small “profit” at the nano tables).

I understand the basis of what Ed is saying: “The problem is that many people are playing only when they are a huge favourite to win- and that they should be playing EVERY hand that they are a FAVOURITE to win, regardless of the size of the edge. Every hand that you DON’T play, when you DO have an edge- leaves money on the table (the amount is proportionate to your Pot Equity” Is this correct?

My problem is that I am not yet apt at systematically determining if and when I have an edge. I assume this come from routinely:-

-Identifying the nuts
-calculating number of outs
-Comparing no. of outs to pot odds

I assume that it’s better to stay very tight and concentrate on learning to loosen up gradually? This will allow me to play more and more hands until EVENTUALLY I’m playing ALL the +EV hands. Like (I assume) a l lot of people, I am folding too much post-flop. I think this is my next biggest leak and hence what I need to concentrate on next.

Regards,
Ian

[MiracleRiver]

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Why should you continue when the pot is big but fold when it is small? 8-to-1 is 8-to-1, after all. The reason is that later bets are smaller in proportion to the pot when it is big than when it is small. Calling down with a marginal made hand is cheaper when the pot contains 16 small bets and it is 2 small bets to you than when it contains only 8 small bets and it is 1 small bet to you.

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Could be missing something here - but isn't 16:2 the same as 8:1 ??

[The Vibesman]

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Why should you continue when the pot is big but fold when it is small? 8-to-1 is 8-to-1, after all. The reason is that later bets are smaller in proportion to the pot when it is big than when it is small. Calling down with a marginal made hand is cheaper when the pot contains 16 small bets and it is 2 small bets to you than when it contains only 8 small bets and it is 1 small bet to you.

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Could be missing something here - but isn't 16:2 the same as 8:1 ??

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Yes, but he's talking about the bets on the later streets as well. Say you're getting 16-2 and you call, everyone else folds. Now 18 sb in the pot, or 9 bb on the turn. When you are bet into on the turn, you are now getting 10-1 on your call. But in an 8 sb pot, you call one, now there are 9 sb in the pot, or 4.5 BB on the turn. So when you call on the turn, now you are only getting 5.5-1. In theory, it has now become more expensive for you to call due to the fact that the pot is small.

[MiracleRiver]

Thanks Vibesman - I knew that - I was just testing you all [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Seriously - I understand it now. Thanks.

[Keys Myaths]

Seriously, it's been 4 months since this has been bumped?

Shame.