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Old 05-30-2007, 05:05 PM
D.L.M. D.L.M. is offline
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PokerStars Game #10186818818: Tournament #51627905, $0.01+$0.00 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (5/10) - 2007/05/30 - 17:01:04 (ET)
Table '51627905 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: jmoney10587 (1315 in chips)
Seat 2: supreme20 (2685 in chips)
supreme20: posts small blind 5
jmoney10587: posts big blind 10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to supreme20 [8d 6s]
supreme20: calls 5
jmoney10587: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 7s 5d]
jmoney10587: bets 20
supreme20: raises 70 to 90
jmoney10587: raises 270 to 360
supreme20: raises 2315 to 2675 and is all-in
jmoney10587 said, "gambooool"
jmoney10587: calls 945 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [4d 7s 5d] [3d]
*** RIVER *** [4d 7s 5d 3d] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jmoney10587: shows [7d 6d] (a straight flush, Three to Seven)
supreme20: shows [8d 6s] (a straight, Four to Eight)
jmoney10587 collected 2630 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2630 | Rake 0
Board [4d 7s 5d 3d 2s]
Seat 1: jmoney10587 (big blind) showed [7d 6d] and won (2630) with a straight flush, Three to Seven
Seat 2: supreme20 (button) (small blind) showed [8d 6s] and lost with a straight, Four to Eight
shoulad been the knockout for another
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:11 PM
D.L.M. D.L.M. is offline
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2-1 me
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:11 PM
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I run so bad
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:11 PM
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the topic under discussion will be punishing limpers when playing from the blinds

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is it possible to punish someone, when you only have 20bbs

I don't think so

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hahahahahahha....i haven't shortstacked fullring in quite some time
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:25 PM
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650 hands of FR today - up $550, ran good.

I kept getting minraised - and you know what to do vs minraisers...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($277.70)
UTG+1 ($189)
MP1 ($102.50)
MP2 ($286)
CO ($252.55)
Hero ($197)
SB ($15.80)
BB ($200.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $8.

Flop: ($23) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $187</font>, MP1 calls $64.50 (All-In).

Turn: ($302.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($302.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $302.50

Results in white below:
MP1 has Kd Ks (two pair, kings and jacks).
Hero has Ac Ah (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $302.50.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($150.35)
BB ($167.90)
UTG ($203.75)
UTG+1 ($228.70)
Hero ($194)
MP2 ($185.35)
MP3 ($120.40)
CO ($243.65)
Button ($130.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $186</font>, Button calls $94.65 (All-In).

Turn: ($327.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($327.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $327.65

Results in white below:
Hero has Qc As (two pair, queens and threes).
Button has 4h 6h (two pair, fours and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $327.65.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($141.35)
SB ($167.50)
BB ($203.75)
UTG ($225.70)
Hero ($319.65)
MP1 ($214.35)
MP2 ($124.80)
MP3 ($227.65)
CO ($190)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $311.65</font>, Button calls $105.35 (All-In).

Turn: ($464) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($464) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $464

Results in white below:
Hero has Jd Qd (flush, queen high).
Button has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins $464.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:30 PM
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How about something on transitioning between FR and tourney? For those of us who play the occaisional tourney but are not specialists... ie: the biggest differences you're noticing between FR and tourney. The biggest mistakes FR players make when playing tournaments. etc.

[/ QUOTE ]Is there any interest in this topic? It's the second time this has come up in the last two days for me.

Like BMD my post count mostly comes from being a donkament player. If there is interest in this topic, I'm certain I could contribute.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:37 PM
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How about something on transitioning between FR and tourney? For those of us who play the occaisional tourney but are not specialists... ie: the biggest differences you're noticing between FR and tourney. The biggest mistakes FR players make when playing tournaments. etc.

[/ QUOTE ]Is there any interest in this topic? It's the second time this has come up in the last two days for me.

Like BMD my post count mostly comes from being a donkament player. If there is interest in this topic, I'm certain I could contribute.

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I think it's interesting.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:45 PM
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How about something on transitioning between FR and tourney? For those of us who play the occaisional tourney but are not specialists... ie: the biggest differences you're noticing between FR and tourney. The biggest mistakes FR players make when playing tournaments. etc.

[/ QUOTE ]Is there any interest in this topic? It's the second time this has come up in the last two days for me.

Like BMD my post count mostly comes from being a donkament player. If there is interest in this topic, I'm certain I could contribute.

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Absolutely! FR is about incremental advances in bankroll, but everybody wants to make that big MTT score...

If you can related it back to FR play and transitioning (as opposed to a general MTT theory post) it could be an awesome thread.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:30 PM
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the_main since you have enough hands on PT for Nl400 you can calculate this and then let us all know:

choose NL400 on your preference page
go to Games notes tab
put in $1 for rake press filter (get all) write # down
put in $3 for rake press filter (get all) write # down

add the above 2 numbers and divide the it by total Number of hands for the level you get the answear and post it here?

for NL200 FR mine is .56 that means for about every two hands I play I get a Fpp

I have hear for NL400 it should be about .65 so if you can check this and let us know we can make sure! thanks

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Will do so as soon as my session is done..

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Ok, here's the math(400NL only):

Total hands: 18,514
$1rake: 8,574
$3rake: 4,186

12760/18514 = .689

So I should get an fpp for ~70% of hands?
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:50 PM
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tx for posting, yes you get an fpp for 70% of your hands at that limit.... thats actually a pretty good jump from NL200 (.56)

it seems you get the same VPPS (base Fpp) though
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