cash out curse on Stars

[realjaydub]

Why is it so hard for humans to find weakness in themselves? They ignore their own mistakes as holding back their success and instead choose some voodoo


See reason number C

[benfranklin]

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Why is it so hard for humans to find weakness in themselves? They ignore their own mistakes as holding back their success and instead choose some voodoo




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Suggest you look in the mirror and then read this:

[realjaydub]

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Why is it so hard for humans to find weakness in themselves? They ignore their own mistakes as holding back their success and instead choose some voodoo




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Suggest you look in the mirror and then read this:



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Ben, do you play live? You play Canteburry or Hinckley?

[realjaydub]

Ben, perhaps like I said in theory C, I might just suck that bad.

Are you a winning player? How would you feel about coaching?

[Bobo Fett]

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Heheheh

Well I did "level" you with the boom account theory...hahahah.

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For quite some time I have assumed there was a very good chance that this thread was simply providing you with some amusement. It would not surprise me in the least if this was a gimmick account. Just the same, I reply seriously because:

1) You actually might be serious.

2) There are others reading this thread who really do think this way.

If this is a little fun that you're having, I think your "bait" might finally be tiring. For some reason, this makes me think of a question: does anyone, without looking, actually remember who the OP even is anymore? Has he even posted again here since? It seems to have become the "RJD vs. 2+2" thread.

If you actually are serious, I have a couple of thoughts for you...or for others who are taking you seriously and think the same way. This isn't an argument that will ever be ended, unless someone actually steps up with proof that a site is rigged. Maybe it's time for you to take a serious look at RJD's answer C. I'm not all that great at poker, yet I am able to make money every month (albeit with the help of bonus & RB), and I improve every month...it just takes a little effort. The "poker is rigged" club needs to make a choice:

1) All sites are rigged, I need to quit playing, or decide I don't care because I play for a hobby and don't mind losing.

2) Site X (and Y and Z) are rigged, I need to play elsewhere.

3) I'm making excuses for my own poor play. I need to decide whether I want to keep losing, quit playing, or make an effort to improve.

If the reasoned arguments in this and all of the other threads like it haven't convinced you yet that online poker is highly unlikely to be rigged, I don't think anything ever will.

[realjaydub]

Well said bobo.

[TheTruthSpeaks]

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the variance part is absolute bull...i posted in a thread(still loosing on stars) a few hours ago that i noticed that pattern as well...everytime i cash out from ps or claim my cash rewards for my fpp i have 2-3 really bad days and unlimited bad beats...i usually leave in my account around 40 BI for my games hence i don't understand how variance could be possibly involved with this...i never went broke but under normal circumstances if i dont cash out or get money from ps in any way there is no chance i loose 10-12 BI per day for a few on the trot which is what happens when i do...i really hope this never happens to me again cause i will start believing its not a coincidence anymore....

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Please report your belief of an international criminal fraud operating at PokerStars to your local police force. This is a serious criminal allegation you are making.

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Josem,

You said that you are in no way affaliated with pokerstars, yet, in this thread you have made 43(so far) posts defending them. 43 [censored] posts! LOL. who on earth would do that without a vested interest?

Come on dude, just admit you're shill. It's nothing to be ashamed of, poker sites have been employing them since they opened their doors.

[edfurlong]

Half of my posts are about gilmore girls and I don't live in stars hollow.

[ClubChamp04]

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Some have asked that we prove sites are NOT rigged. I'm not sure how exactly this is supposed to happen. How does one prove a negative? Whatever stats one of us shows, the argument could just be that it only happens after cashouts, or it only happens to some people, or it only happens on Tuesdays, or what have you. The only way to prove it would be to be able to show every hand every played at a site. If somehow one of us were able to get our hands on the RNG algorithim, one could argue that they don't always use it...they have a second "rigged" one we missed. The same would go for any regulatory body that checked the same...perhaps they were misled in some way, or paid off, or some such thing. And then there is the school of thought that sites are rigged in a subtle way that could never be discovered even by looking at the numbers...that things are tweaked one way for some people, and the opposite for others, so that they even out. We will NEVER be able to prove, to everyone's satisfaction, that a given site is not rigged. NEVER. If you believe that a site (or sites) are rigged, and you are waiting for this proof from someone to change your mind, you're wasting your time. If you're convinced, don't play at that site or sites any more. End of discussion.


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Just wondering, why will stars not publish their algorithm? I read the article that jaydub posted earlier in the thread and it was quite interesting. Planetpoker had a faulty rng and was spotted when reviewed. Cigital(the company who reviewed stars rng) has clearly given stars their stamp of approval which means 1)it is random 2)the algorithim has no weak points for potential hackers to break the code. Maybe Stars could publish the code given that Cigital has approved it?

[Josem]

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Josem,

You said that you are in no way affaliated with pokerstars, yet, in this thread you have made 43(so far) posts defending them. 43 [censored] posts! LOL.

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Do you have any evidence that I'm affiliated with PS?

What evidence can I reasonably provide that I am not employed by PokerStars?

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who on earth would do that without a vested interest?

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Me.

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Come on dude, just admit you're shill. It's nothing to be ashamed of, poker sites have been employing them since they opened their doors.

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...but I'm not. I'm currently an employee of the Australian Government (I obviously do not speak on their behalf here).