Peyton Manning, Greatest QB of all time? - Page 18

Golden_Rhino · #**171** 01-25-2007, 06:36 AM

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As far as I can remember LT was pretty good even when the Chargers sucked.

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In his 6 Seasons, he only has 2 Years over 4.5 YPC, and 2 Years under 4 YPC.

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I didn't say he had great stats, I'm saying he was a very good running back. The only back I remember putting up great stats with a horrible team was Barry Sanders (I'm sure you guys can think of others), but he was in a league all by himself.

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Actually RBs putting up big numbers on bad teams are not that unprecedented. Off the top of my head OJ Simpson, Walter Payton and Marshall Faulk come to mind. All of them played for some pretty poor teams and racked up some big numbers while doing it.

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Eagles · #**172** 01-25-2007, 10:40 AM

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In this month's issue of Maxim, Dan Marino ranks the current top QBs.

"Tom Brady
Dan says: 'He's number one over Peyton because he's won three Super Bowls. But both of these guys are in a league of their own.'
Telling stat: Brady is 10-1 in playoff games
Factoid: In 2004 Brady became the youngest QB to win his second Super Bowl MVP. It was his third year as a starter.

Peyton Manning
Dan says: 'I don't think he's missed a snap as a starter. He's just your great prototypical franchise quarterback.'
Telling stat: Peyton has a career passer rating of 94.0
Factoid: Peyton roughed up Marino's record for touchdown passes in a season when he threw 49 TDs in 2004. But can he beat his dome baby rap? "

The list is rounded out with Carson Palmer, Marc Bulger, and Eli Manning.

I think it's very surprising to see Dan Marino of all people glorify Brady solely because of his Super Bowl rings. After reading the Patriots rant thread I think it is very surprising to see Brady even mentioned in the same breath as Peyton Manning when talking about all time greats.

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Not to mention Eli Manning in the top 5, Eli Manning isn't one of the 5 best quarterbacks in the NFC East.

PokerFink · #**173** 01-25-2007, 11:20 AM

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The list is rounded out with Carson Palmer, Marc Bulger, and Eli Manning.

I think it's very surprising to see Dan Marino of all people glorify Brady solely because of his Super Bowl rings.

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The fact that he has ELI MANNING in his top five quarterbacks means that you can disregard all of his analysis.

tdarko · #**174** 01-25-2007, 11:27 AM

Pokerfink,

Maybe Dan had too many concussions? This is the only reasonable explanation, unless for some reason Eli was in the room with a weapon.

PokerFink · #**175** 01-25-2007, 11:33 AM

Blackize,

Could you please post Marino's comments for Eli Manning? I'm curious if the "telling stat" is his 0-2 playoff record or his career 73.2 passer rating.

KilgoreTrout · #**176** 01-25-2007, 12:03 PM

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my vote goes to Peyton Manning

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blackize · #**177** 01-25-2007, 12:45 PM

Sure thing.

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Eli Manning:
Dan says: 'He's not up there with his brother yet but he has the talent. He has the attitude that he can bring the team back no matter what.'
Telling stat: Eli has already led the Giants to five fourth quarter comebacks.
Factoid: Eli was the fifth player in SEC history to throw for more than 10,000 yards.

Triumph36 · #**178** 01-25-2007, 12:50 PM

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Sure thing.

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Eli Manning:
Dan says: 'He's not up there with his brother yet but he has the talent. He has the attitude that he can bring the team back no matter what.'
Telling stat: Eli has already led the Giants to five fourth quarter comebacks.
Factoid: Eli was the fifth player in SEC history to throw for more than 10,000 yards.

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No, he doesn't. Eli Manning will be an NFL average QB, at best. Go compare Peyton's numbers to Eli's in his third season.

blackize · #**179** 01-25-2007, 01:38 PM

I disagree that he will even be average. He has 1 or 2 more seasons playing as badly as he has before he gets run out of NY. My guess is he'll be moved to a terrible team or a backup role shortly after that to never be heard of again....

Golden_Rhino · #**180** 01-25-2007, 09:52 PM

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In this month's issue of Maxim, Dan Marino ranks the current top QBs.

"Tom Brady
Dan says: 'He's number one over Peyton because he's won three Super Bowls. But both of these guys are in a league of their own.'
Telling stat: Brady is 10-1 in playoff games
Factoid: In 2004 Brady became the youngest QB to win his second Super Bowl MVP. It was his third year as a starter.

Peyton Manning
Dan says: 'I don't think he's missed a snap as a starter. He's just your great prototypical franchise quarterback.'
Telling stat: Peyton has a career passer rating of 94.0
Factoid: Peyton roughed up Marino's record for touchdown passes in a season when he threw 49 TDs in 2004. But can he beat his dome baby rap? "

The list is rounded out with Carson Palmer, Marc Bulger, and Eli Manning.

I think it's very surprising to see Dan Marino of all people glorify Brady solely because of his Super Bowl rings. After reading the Patriots rant thread I think it is very surprising to see Brady even mentioned in the same breath as Peyton Manning when talking about all time greats.

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Not to mention Eli Manning in the top 5, Eli Manning isn't one of the 5 best quarterbacks in the NFC East.

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LOL at Marino putting Peyton below Brady because he doesn't have a ring.