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View Poll Results: What's the most annoying signature call in televised baseball?
CWS' Hawk Harrelson's "You can.. PUT IT ON THE BOOOOARD.... YYYES!!! 18 30.51%
CWS' Hawk Harrelson's "He gone." 27 45.76%
I've never watched a CWS broadcast 14 23.73%
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:38 PM
vhawk01 vhawk01 is offline
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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khan had 9 million starting the hand right ? he raised to 6 million ? Why wouldn't he go all in in the dark, should he wait for the flop to push to gain any fold equity from yang ? No way u should fold to any flop yourself so is there really any FE if u push the flop? What am I missing here.

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you're not missing anything:

- he should have just went all in preflop
- since he didn't, he's not folding any flop
- going all in in the dark vs. waiting for the flop to shove makes no difference in terms of EV, FE, anything

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Unless Yang, getting the worst imaginable flop, somehow finds a fold for 3 mil into 16 mil. Its not impossible, and it doesnt impact the EV (as long as he also finds a fold when it comes A or Q high) but it does probably decrease his chance of being eliminated.

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he's less likely to find a fold on a bad flop if you just shove blind than if you wait to shove

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Agreed entirely, thats what I was trying to say.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:38 PM
Aleo Aleo is offline
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

LOL Johhny Chan

What a promo whore
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:38 PM
ZeTurd ZeTurd is offline
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

Arrrrrrrrrr-in

(No racist ban, plz)
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
Austiger Austiger is offline
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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Can someone relay the action on Rain's bustout plz?

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Lang raises to 1.5 from MP, Rain in SB re-raised to 6 leaving just over 3 behind. Lang calls after a while and Rain announces he is allin on the flop in the dark. Flop is king high and Rain has AQo and Langs JJ holds.

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Don't know the blinds, but if Yang's initial raise was a standard amount Khan's play seems pretty standard (except he should have waited till after he saw the flop to announce all in.)
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
Suiteness Suiteness is offline
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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Random stat: The chances of Jerry Yang winning each of the four all-ins he was involved (calculated at the time the money went in) is 8%.*

* Actually, that figure is a bit off since I used the EV as the chances of winning -- in his A9 vs A7 hand there was a significant chance of a split pot. So his odds of winning outright each of the all-ins was slightly under 8%.

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LOL, noob. God is bigger than stats.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

The ALL in Gold bracelet!
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
the alex the alex is offline
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

LOL Chan
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

Does Chan have an energy drink?
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
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haha chan is wasted!
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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chan is out of control

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Is this the World Series of Johnny Chan?

Buy my drink... poker... buy my drink... poker... buy my drink... buy my drink... buy my drink... poker...
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