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| CWS' Hawk Harrelson's "You can.. PUT IT ON THE BOOOOARD.... YYYES!!! |
   
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#1731
07-17-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
Random stat: The chances of Jerry Yang winning each of the four all-ins he was involved (calculated at the time the money went in) is 8%.*
* Actually, that figure is a bit off since I used the EV as the chances of winning -- in his A9 vs A7 hand there was a significant chance of a split pot. So his odds of winning outright each of the all-ins was slightly under 8%. 
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#1732
07-17-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
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[ QUOTE ] khan had 9 million starting the hand right ? he raised to 6 million ? Why wouldn't he go all in in the dark, should he wait for the flop to push to gain any fold equity from yang ? No way u should fold to any flop yourself so is there really any FE if u push the flop? What am I missing here. [/ QUOTE ] you're not missing anything: - he should have just went all in preflop - since he didn't, he's not folding any flop - going all in in the dark vs. waiting for the flop to shove makes no difference in terms of EV, FE, anything [/ QUOTE ] So why is everyone screaming terrible play all in in the dark.
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#1733
07-17-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
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Yang isnt folding anything at 1-6 pot odds, give it up folks, he was basiclly all in and called pre flop and lost a coin flip . [/ QUOTE ] Yes, so the mistake is not getting it in preflop.
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#1734
07-17-2007, 07:34 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
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Can someone relay the action on Rain's bustout plz? [/ QUOTE ] Lang raises to 1.5 from MP, Rain in SB re-raised to 6 leaving just over 3 behind. Lang calls after a while and Rain announces he is allin on the flop in the dark. Flop is king high and Rain has AQo and Langs JJ holds.
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#1735
07-17-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
Yang understands pot odds about as much as the English language...and yes he could have been folded out on that flop with a little acting like I said earlier
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#1737
07-17-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
Hi guys. it's 01:30 am here. Tomorrow i have an early wakeup, what the heck is going on? oh he just said it. 10 minute break down. why? is that after every player is elminated?
i heard phil saying, this could easily durate another 12 hours. OmG? well, it's about 8.2 million, so i can understand you would take your time, but c'mon. i gotta work tomorrow!
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#1738
07-17-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] khan had 9 million starting the hand right ? he raised to 6 million ? Why wouldn't he go all in in the dark, should he wait for the flop to push to gain any fold equity from yang ? No way u should fold to any flop yourself so is there really any FE if u push the flop? What am I missing here. [/ QUOTE ] you're not missing anything: - he should have just went all in preflop - since he didn't, he's not folding any flop - going all in in the dark vs. waiting for the flop to shove makes no difference in terms of EV, FE, anything [/ QUOTE ] Unless Yang, getting the worst imaginable flop, somehow finds a fold for 3 mil into 16 mil. Its not impossible, and it doesnt impact the EV (as long as he also finds a fold when it comes A or Q high) but it does probably decrease his chance of being eliminated. [/ QUOTE ] he's less likely to find a fold on a bad flop if you just shove blind than if you wait to shove
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#1739
07-17-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] khan had 9 million starting the hand right ? he raised to 6 million ? Why wouldn't he go all in in the dark, should he wait for the flop to push to gain any fold equity from yang ? No way u should fold to any flop yourself so is there really any FE if u push the flop? What am I missing here. [/ QUOTE ] you're not missing anything: - he should have just went all in preflop - since he didn't, he's not folding any flop - going all in in the dark vs. waiting for the flop to shove makes no difference in terms of EV, FE, anything [/ QUOTE ] So why is everyone screaming terrible play all in in the dark. [/ QUOTE ] Because they are all result oriented nits...
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#1740
07-17-2007, 07:36 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **
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Yang understands pot odds about as much as the English language...and yes he could have been folded out on that flop with a little acting like I said earlier [/ QUOTE ] I tuned in late, but that's my impression as well.
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