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#161
04-05-2006, 09:25 PM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
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From NWP: [ QUOTE ] I play the 300-600 game all the time : 1. I have never seen any type of colluding 2. I would gladly want to play against 2 players who were colluding 3. I love how a bunch of low limit animals from 2 + 2 analyze a hand from a 300-600 game, really its a [censored] joke. People play very erradically in the game, which is why it is very tough to beat. I have seen many scenerios similiar to these hand histories posted before. I have played hands myself like the hands shown. 4. I know 100 percent for sure this wasnt collusion. 5. Anyone who thinks this was collusion, well thats why you will never beat a 300-600 game. 6. Lastly, if anyone is scared to play 6 max 300-600 because of collusion, I will happily accomdate you in a 300-600 heads up game where definitely there is no cheating possible. Neverwin [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] He is coming right out and saying that this was him. 
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#162
04-05-2006, 11:23 PM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
cheaters love to play heads up, cheaters love to throw craps, cheaters love to snort coke, wtf do they care...its all a freeroll.
very high chance this neverwin dude is in on the scams considering his post. even the big game crew wouldnt say there was a 100% chance of no cheating in the 4000-8000 when they were being accused (just 100% it wasnt them).
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#165
04-06-2006, 03:57 AM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
As a completely neutral party I would have to say the HH's posted here are at the very least grounds for serious investigation. It's very easy to say, "Anyone who can't understand why these plays were made is a total donkey,".
It's another thing to post the hand histories and explain exactly why said plays were made. Until I'm convinced otherwise this looks really really bad.
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#166
04-06-2006, 07:21 AM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
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I know both players involved in the hands. I know almost all the players who play in the game. I know these two players have a long history with each other, which would explain the animal tendencies when they get involved in pots. Go ahead and scare everyone out of the game. Really I dont understand why its such a big deal, I honestly would welcome any two people who wanted to collude against me anytime. Colluding is not profitable in the 300-600 game. Against less skilled players yes it should be very profitable. If you arent talented enough to play 300-600 online, dont play nobody cares. I would have thought you guys would like to hear my insight about the issue since I have played more hours in that game than anybody. But you guys want to claim conspiracy and stuff so I'm done. Neverwin [/ QUOTE ]
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#167
04-06-2006, 07:46 AM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
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[ QUOTE ] I know both players involved in the hands. I know almost all the players who play in the game. I know these two players have a long history with each other, which would explain the animal tendencies when they get involved in pots. Go ahead and scare everyone out of the game. Really I dont understand why its such a big deal, I honestly would welcome any two people who wanted to collude against me anytime. Colluding is not profitable in the 300-600 game. Against less skilled players yes it should be very profitable. If you arent talented enough to play 300-600 online, dont play nobody cares. I would have thought you guys would like to hear my insight about the issue since I have played more hours in that game than anybody. But you guys want to claim conspiracy and stuff so I'm done. Neverwin [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] it's pretty telling that as many people are disagreeing with him as they are on there. you'd think on neverwin's site, people would agree with neverwin. but they aren't. because it's obviously suspicious. i've given up contacting ub. hopefully people who play in teh game will persue it because they obviously half assed the investigation. if these guys aren't cheating, it's still suspicious enough that UB owes everyone who plays that game a full detailed analysis of these guys' history, especially in 3 handed games but i also see that someone says dumbanimal had the nut flush draw. his play actually seems to be in line with how he usually plays. he plays really fast and jams his draws. someone told me a hand vs him on party that went as follows: dumbanimal raises on button, he calls with 98. flop 985. he checks, dumb raises, he 3-bets, dumb caps. turn 4. he bets, dumb raises, he calls. river 6. he checks, dumb bets, he calls, and dumb shows J6. so i think the fact that dumb is a gambler and someone says he had the nut flush draw would make some sense in the context of the first hand. i wish i knew more about hogbird though. his play is what makes the least sense. he didn't even have a draw.
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#168
04-06-2006, 08:37 AM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
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ok get your best 2 players and lets play, tell me when are where ill be there, nothing less than 200-400 Neverwin [/ QUOTE ] "lol"
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#169
04-06-2006, 09:15 AM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
oh that would be so sweet. i wonder if he'll take side action on that. can we get two guys together? james? barron? bk?
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#170
04-06-2006, 12:32 PM
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Re: how can this NOT be collusion?
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oh that would be so sweet. i wonder if he'll take side action on that. can we get two guys together? james? barron? bk? [/ QUOTE ] well i think it's safe to say you can count me out... a 3 handed game with another good player and neverwin...forgive me if i say no thanks. i mean, c'mon, i stopped playing 1/2+ b/c of the variance, i wonder if this game would have any swings lol Barron
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