Ask a Catholic?

[IcarusJam]

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Thanks for answering my previous questions. Got 1 more that I forgot.

Lets say that Im a really good person, almost never lie, never kill, Im nice to everybody I meet, donate to a charity (lets say a Cancer Charity), do community service, but Don't believe in God despite being given numerous opportunities to do so. I die and turns out God is for real, do you think God would let me into heaven? Do you think I would deserve to go to heaven?

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it says in the bible that christ says that you can only reach the father through me...like i said, no one knows or has any physical evidence beyond what christ has revealed.

here is a story, i'm sorry my shift button is broke...and this keyboard blows.

5 years ago my moms best friend was in the hospital for some reason, and the nurse accidentally overdosed her with pain killers...by a lot. if i remember correctly she went into cardiac arrest and was dead for all but 10 seconds or so.

she said to my mom, when i died i was in heaven and i was speaking to god and he said, it is not your time yet. she said it was the most euphoric feeling of happiness she has ever experienced, when she was recessitated, she told everyone about her experience.

hope this helps with the whole evidence of heaven thing.

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Thats a cool story, but you forgot answer my question, would I deserve to go to Heaven... In YOUR book.

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If i was God you would get in.

[IcarusJam]

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Sorry for the double post, on the story you had, about it not being your mom's friends time or w/e.

Surely you realize that thousands of people have told nearly identical stories but instead of it being the Christian God that they were talking to they were talking to Buddha or another religion's God?

Do you think that the person was actually talking to Buddha?

If not, what would be the explanation? Can the explanation be the same for your mom's friends story?

I use Buddha as an example, I have no clue about that religion but you can replace Buddha w/ any God and the point is the same.

BTW: TY for answering my numerous questions [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'm really intersted in your oppinions.

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thanks for being interested. I see what your saying about the whole buddha thing. to be honest, i know it to be true with my moms friend because she wouldn't lie about that.'

You got me stumped man. You have a good point.

I'm gonna take the defensive stance and say they are lying, kthxbai,

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[IcarusJam]

Do you believe that Catholicism is a monotheistic religion? Does it matter? I ask cuz the father, son, hg thing is weird as monotheism and then there's Mary's role and all the saints and angels and it just starts to look like there's alot of divine beings hanging around. Plus like Satan, is he not a god and if not, what is he?

Ah, your asking about the biggest mystery of the Church. The Trinity. It is three persons in one God, just like there are three sides to a triangle.

Mary is the mother of the living God, she is adored and honored amongst the Church. She is prayed to a lot because of her intimate relation to Christ, him being her son.

You know how some people view Doyle Brunson? A lot say he is the best in the world, when he dies, his legacy will live forever. Saints are the high rollers of tv poker. Their stories will be remember for being so amazingly devoted to God.

Satan is the fallen angel Lucifer, when God created all the angels, they had a choice to obey, and serve mankind, or bail, and live against the love of God.

1/3 of the angels followed lucifer.

[BillNye]

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Sorry for the double post, on the story you had, about it not being your mom's friends time or w/e.

Surely you realize that thousands of people have told nearly identical stories but instead of it being the Christian God that they were talking to they were talking to Buddha or another religion's God?

Do you think that the person was actually talking to Buddha?

If not, what would be the explanation? Can the explanation be the same for your mom's friends story?

I use Buddha as an example, I have no clue about that religion but you can replace Buddha w/ any God and the point is the same.

BTW: TY for answering my numerous questions [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'm really intersted in your oppinions.

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to be honest, i know it to be true with my moms friend because she wouldn't lie about that.'


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Im not saying your mom's friends a liar, Im sure she fully believe what she saw. what im saying is that imagination + near death = crazy things.

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I believe what your asking here is why Catholocism over all else. To be completely honest, i was raised Catholic but didn't choose to follow Christ until a few years ago. Christ is the way the truth and the life and through the Eucharist he gives himself to mankind.


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What (exactly) does choosing to follow christ mean if you're raised a christian? And what made you become more serious about religion?

Why do you find it so hard to answer questions about evolution, Adam & Eve and the age of the universe directly, and instead resort to humor and deflection? Surely you should stand up for your beliefs, whatever they are?

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C'mon guys, obviously he doesn't know what they are and hasn't thought about it a lot, so how is he going to tell you? He's all over the map when he's open on stuff, and when he's out of his depth, he closes up. If you're looking for consistency and coherence, you came to the wrong place. There's nothing surprising about that.

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ok, i make my answers concise as i can, and only touch the tip of the iceberg with this stuff.

i can't answer all of their questions with in depth 5 paragraph essays like you would like me too.

i consistently ask if someone wants sources, and this is my first real thread so i'm sorry if i'm not ne good.

my shift key is broken and it's annoying the hell outta me.

sorry if it's not what you wanted,

ij

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I'm saying with a thread like this, you pretty much have to be loaded for bear or it will just be pretty silly. Starting it pretty much implies you'll take the questions seriously and really strive to make clear why you believe what you do and why it's internally consistent.

It's more like a random chat session with someone who's not really paying attention anyway, maybe playing on his gameboy or something.

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sorry i stated i'm 19, still learning, and if you want more details, pm me, cuz i don't have time to write to everyone with sources.

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You're well aware that I wasn't saying anything about sources.

This is what I mean. You're not particularly interested in the subject of your own thread.

[Jamougha]

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source for the pope saying we came from apes plz!

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John Paul II declares that evoution is 'more than a theory' http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/proj...ticanview.html

'Today, almost half a century after publication of the encyclical, new knowledge has led to the recognition of the theory of evolution as more than a hypothesis. It is indeed remarkable that this theory has been progressively accepted by researchers, following a series of discoveries in various fields of knowledge. The convergence, neither sought nor fabricated, of the results of work that was conducted independently is in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory.'

Also catholic doctrne says that "no real disagreement can exist between the theologian and the scientist provided each keeps within his own limits. . . . If nevertheless there is a disagreement . . . it should be remembered that the sacred writers, or more truly ‘the Spirit of God who spoke through them, did not wish to teach men such truths (as the inner structure of visible objects) which do not help anyone to salvation’; and that, for this reason, rather than trying to provide a scientific exposition of nature, they sometimes describe and treat these matters either in a somewhat figurative language or as the common manner of speech those times required, and indeed still requires nowadays in everyday life, even amongst most learned people" (Leo XIII, Providentissimus Deus 18).

This is known as 'Non-Overlapping Majisteria' or NOMA. The church accepts that science is responsible for determining physical truth while the church deals with spiritual matters.

Denying that humans share a common ancestor with all primates would bring the church into direct and irresolvable conflict with science; and not only that but on an issue where the Pope has expressly said that science is correct. Therefore it is contradictory to Catholic doctrine.

The Catholic church also publicly accepts the Big Bang cosmological model and the established age of the universe of around 13.5 billion years. They even fund reputable, mainstream astronomical and astrophysical work via the Vatican Observatory.

Let me know if you need any more help on understanding Catholicism mkay?

[IcarusJam]

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Sorry for the double post, on the story you had, about it not being your mom's friends time or w/e.

Surely you realize that thousands of people have told nearly identical stories but instead of it being the Christian God that they were talking to they were talking to Buddha or another religion's God?

Do you think that the person was actually talking to Buddha?

If not, what would be the explanation? Can the explanation be the same for your mom's friends story?

I use Buddha as an example, I have no clue about that religion but you can replace Buddha w/ any God and the point is the same.

BTW: TY for answering my numerous questions [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'm really intersted in your oppinions.

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to be honest, i know it to be true with my moms friend because she wouldn't lie about that.'


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Im not saying your mom's friends a liar, Im sure she fully believe what she saw. what im saying is that imagination + near death = crazy things.

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seems that way.

[IcarusJam]

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I believe what your asking here is why Catholocism over all else. To be completely honest, i was raised Catholic but didn't choose to follow Christ until a few years ago. Christ is the way the truth and the life and through the Eucharist he gives himself to mankind.


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What (exactly) does choosing to follow christ mean if you're raised a christian? And what made you become more serious about religion?

Why do you find it so hard to answer questions about evolution, Adam & Eve and the age of the universe directly, and instead resort to humor and deflection? Surely you should stand up for your beliefs, whatever they are?

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C'mon guys, obviously he doesn't know what they are and hasn't thought about it a lot, so how is he going to tell you? He's all over the map when he's open on stuff, and when he's out of his depth, he closes up. If you're looking for consistency and coherence, you came to the wrong place. There's nothing surprising about that.

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ok, i make my answers concise as i can, and only touch the tip of the iceberg with this stuff.

i can't answer all of their questions with in depth 5 paragraph essays like you would like me too.

i consistently ask if someone wants sources, and this is my first real thread so i'm sorry if i'm not ne good.

my shift key is broken and it's annoying the hell outta me.

sorry if it's not what you wanted,

ij

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I'm saying with a thread like this, you pretty much have to be loaded for bear or it will just be pretty silly. Starting it pretty much implies you'll take the questions seriously and really strive to make clear why you believe what you do and why it's internally consistent.

It's more like a random chat session with someone who's not really paying attention anyway, maybe playing on his gameboy or something.

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sorry i stated i'm 19, still learning, and if you want more details, pm me, cuz i don't have time to write to everyone with sources.

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You're well aware that I wasn't saying anything about sources.

This is what I mean. You're not particularly interested in the subject of your own thread.

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I don't camp my thread in BBV, every hour of every day like most do. I have a life outside the internet, scary world i know. think what you want, sorry if i'm not good enough of a threader for you.

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Sorry if any repeated questions i am grunching.

What do you think of the Pope insisting that wearing a condom is a sin, which as a result is leading to increased cases of aids in Africa among catholic peoples. Do you feel that it is more of a sin that current Pope Benedict and his predessor J.P. are contributing directly to the deaths of these people, when they could/should get with the times and promote condoms in this region.

What is your opinion on paedophile priests? Do you believe there would be less paedophiles in the priesthood if they were allowed to marry?

How much do you think that the catholic church has become outdated and that a revolutionary, younger pope is needed so that the required changes can take place?

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You're well aware that I wasn't saying anything about sources.

This is what I mean. You're not particularly interested in the subject of your own thread.

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I don't camp my thread in BBV, every hour of every day like most do. I have a life outside the internet, scary world i know. think what you want, sorry if i'm not good enough of a threader for you.

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Nobody asked you to. Diverting the subject so often and so carelessly didn't work, and you got called on it multiple times, so ... what made you think that you could get past criticism for using an ineffective tactic by using the very same ineffective tactic in response?

You just don't seem to have more than passing interest in your own thread, which is a bit odd.