Gun accidents? Guns are dangrous?

[MuresanForMVP]

regarding the definition of "assault rifle"- Marine Corps standard issue M16A2s do not have an automatic option, only semi-auto and 3 shot burst, which is the same for all M16A2s. Only certain M4A1 Commandos,etc have that auto option as far as I'm aware. The AR-15 is chambered for 5.56 M855 ball ammo (at least that's the most common ammunition i've seen) too, just like all the "real" assault rifles"

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First of all, if they go find an easier target - what good did the assault weapon really do? Someone still got looted.

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Sort of like proper disposal of your important information-carrying papers "does no good" because people intent on identity theft will just move on to an easier target, and someone still gets their identity stolen.

[TomCollins]

Actually we can ask Reginald Denny because he survived.

[PLOlover]

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regarding the definition of "assault rifle"- Marine Corps standard issue M16A2s do not have an automatic option, only semi-auto and 3 shot burst, which is the same for all M16A2s. Only certain M4A1 Commandos,etc have that auto option as far as I'm aware. The AR-15 is chambered for 5.56 M855 ball ammo (at least that's the most common ammunition i've seen) too, just like all the "real" assault rifles"

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civilian AR-15's have only semi-auto mode. Nicely worded though if you are trying to confuse people.

military - m16 and auto or burst option
civilian - ar15 semi auto only

[slickss]

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Go to a firing range and rent a pistol for 50 bucks or whatever and shoot some targets like on tv that you can zoom farther away and closer. You will quickly find out that you can't hit [censored]. It's really quite amazing.

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I have spent quite some time on the firing range. I mention that because it's worth noticing how much your aim improves after only a few hours of training. The fact that American citizens can buy guns without any formal training (correct me if I'm wrong) is just dumb, in the lack of a better word for it. If you need to pass a test to drive a car, there is certainly need for a test to buy a gun.

For the purpose of this discussion I think it's fair to steer away from the LA riots. If American life is like that then I wonder what American forces are doing creating peace in Iraq, and not in LA.

Basically, I'm just trying to understand the American mentality. Because, reading statistics and news on gun incidents in USA, I should ask myself: What is wrong with Americans?

I am tempted to suggest that the American gun culture emerged due to the fact that the creation USA was only possible because of land-stealing, genocide (Indians), and slavery (Africans).

[MuresanForMVP]

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regarding the definition of "assault rifle"- Marine Corps standard issue M16A2s do not have an automatic option, only semi-auto and 3 shot burst, which is the same for all M16A2s. Only certain M4A1 Commandos,etc have that auto option as far as I'm aware. The AR-15 is chambered for 5.56 M855 ball ammo (at least that's the most common ammunition i've seen) too, just like all the "real" assault rifles"

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civilian AR-15's have only semi-auto mode. Nicely worded though if you are trying to confuse people.

military - m16 and auto or burst option
civilian - ar15 semi auto only

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I wasn't trying to confuse people, and I'm weall aware the AR-15 is semi only. I just left that point out. For the record, I'm a member of the United States Marine Corps, am extremely opposed to gun control, and feel that you, bass, and Bkholdem have done a very good job explaining logically the reasons why it's complete BS.

-As an aside I was considering purchasing one of these , only in all black with a tactical rail.

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Muresan: I agree that gun control probably is BS in America. If the people don't want it, it won't work.

However, gun control certainly works in many other countries.

[PLOlover]

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I have spent quite some time on the firing range.

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ok, under ideal conditions like you have at the firing range, how close does the target have to be before you can be pretty sure you can hit it? And remember, that's a nonmoving target that doesn't fire back.

[Misfire]

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I am tempted to suggest that the American gun culture emerged due to the fact that the creation USA was only possible because of land-stealing, genocide, and slavery.

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Very few nations older than the US were created/sustained without at least two of those.

[revots33]

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...but it is a lie because we are not helped or protected.

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So because you say airline metal detectors and drunk driving police checkpoints don't make us any safer, that makes it so I guess? Should we have no laws at all, or do you just get to decide which ones are stupid?

Seriously I'm trying to have an open-minded discussion about this (even though I'm obviously in the minority on this board), but you can't seem to help resorting to name calling whenever someone disagrees with you.

I do not want or expect a risk-free world. In fact I am as annoyed as anyone by the nanny state (banning trans-fats, outlawing online gambling, etc.) But I also think there are some instances where annoying regulations are a necessary evil to help protect law-abiding citizens from a small minority of [censored]. I'd put airline metal detectors and criminal background checks for gun buyers in that "annoying but necesssary" category. If you disagree fine, I'm not taking away your guns so I'm not sure why it pisses you off so much.