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Old 10-09-2006, 10:52 AM
metsandfinsfan metsandfinsfan is offline
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isn't it silly to discuss strategy, then curtain reads it and makes his new move based on it?
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:55 AM
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isn't it silly to discuss strategy, then curtain reads it and makes his new move based on it?

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a bit, ya. but if we're going to play as a group, there's not much else we can do.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:55 AM
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isn't it silly to discuss strategy, then curtain reads it and makes his new move based on it?

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At this point Curtains knows far more about the position than we do together. Also, the best hope of beating Curtains will be hitting him with some strategy he didn't forsee. Also more than beating Curtains, I was hoping for the game to be instructive.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:58 AM
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isn't it silly to discuss strategy, then curtain reads it and makes his new move based on it?

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At this point Curtains knows far more about the position than we do together. Also, the best hope of beating Curtains will be hitting him with some strategy he didn't forsee. Also more than beating Curtains, I was hoping for the game to be instructive.

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Actually I'm hoping for some crazy tactic to pop up out of nowhere on the 20th move.

Using Chessbase or google is wack yo.
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Old 10-09-2006, 10:58 AM
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I was hoping for the game to be instructive.


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Old 10-09-2006, 11:00 AM
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I was hoping for the game to be instructive.


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Which I appreciate
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:05 AM
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isn't it silly to discuss strategy, then curtain reads it and makes his new move based on it?

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At this point Curtains knows far more about the position than we do together. Also, the best hope of beating Curtains will be hitting him with some strategy he didn't forsee. Also more than beating Curtains, I was hoping for the game to be instructive.

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and it definitely has been constructive. I have learned from it already. but if curtains reads the thread, it is virtually impossible to beat him imo
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:06 AM
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and it definitely has been constructive. I have learned from it already. but if curtains reads the thread, it is virtually impossible to beat him imo


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If we're just trying to win, then I shouldn't be allowed to vote.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:13 AM
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...if curtains reads the thread, it is virtually impossible to beat him imo

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We aren't going to beat him with strategy anyway. We might beat him by taking our time and finding a wicked line in the middlegame. You all underestimate the power of tactics and overestimate strategy.
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Old 10-09-2006, 11:17 AM
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this makes a lot more sense. my main concern then would be
10. Ne2 which allows a3 as well as a castle at a later move, and really leaves us scrambling to protect a center pawn without a queen or rook. seems like a very bad proposition.

all in all i just don't think playing a vulnerable move like ..d5 is so hot against a clearly better player.

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Are you forgetting that we're UP A PAWN at this point? Even if we have to hand the pawn back at some point, why is that a bad deal for us?

I've gone through a few variations, which I won't bother with here, but suffice to say that Black has no immediate way to win the pawn back. And even if we decided dxe4 was bad, there's nothing wrong with dxc4.

Bottom line, I believe we must play d5 now because we may have no future opportunity to play this important central thrust. d6 leaves the pawn backward and weak, unsupported by any other pawns. OK, the pawn will be weak if it's isolated too, but we will have the only central pawn and a space advantage.

It's wrong to think we should play weak, "safe" moves against a better player. We should always play the best move. The better player is the one who plays the better moves, period.

d5 is by far the most popular move in this position for a reason.
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