Fossilman's Account Hacked?

[mattnxtc]

correct me if im wrong...but dont players have to cover up their sites they are representing if they make a tv table at the WPT?

[sharp63]

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honestly..people would probably consider Hellmuth a better NL tourney player that greenstein and there is probably a lot of validity to it

You have a hard time arguing against a guy who has 10 bracelets all from holdem tournaments.

Now when you get to other forms of poker it becomes a lot more debatable and greenstein probably has the edge but since the WSOP is now the WSONLHOLDEM, Hellmuth would be considered better more than likely

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First off, you're missing the point completely. Random people who watch poker casually on TV would think that Hellmuth is the best poker player in the world. I'm not talking about people at 2+2 or others who know a lot about poker and the top players. I'm talking about people who have watched a few WSOP broadcasts.

Also, Hellmuth's 10 bracelets are an accomplishment but it's impossible to actually compare players on bracelets. Are you telling me that DN, Phil Ivey, or Greenstein couldn't also have had 10 bracelets if they were playing back in the late 80's/early 90's when tournament fields were MUCH smaller? I just don't buy into this line of thinking that because Phil has 10 bracelets in NLHE that he is the best NLHE player in the world. It's not a realistic measurement.

[Phntm]

Get ready for all hell to break loose over there, they do not take it well when someone questions DN. He is like an infalliable god to those people..
Good Luck, btw I agree with your stance completely

[West]

No offense to the WPT, but I personally have always thought that ESPN's WSOP coverage blows WPT out of the water. I think a lot of other people felt/feel the same way.

"Never" is a strong word.

[mattnxtc]

Actually you are the one comparing apples and oranges

People (2+2 people included) will generally think that Hellmuth is one of the top NL tourney players ever well b/c he is. His consistancy is pretty good proof. He still puts up great numbers even in these large fields.

Greenstein, Dn and so forth would be considered much better cash game players but since we are talkin tournaments Hellmuth is at the top...Will he be passed one day? probably

[West]

You're full of [censored], and probably have some relation to the WPT.

"All of us poker players were degenerates" - makes it sound like Barry was homeless until the WPT came along and made him a multimillionaire.

The lawsuit is about greed only if you consider it greedy for players to want to have control over the rights to their own names. Personally, I don't think that's greedy, I think it's just how it ought to be.

[Elvis]

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Daniel's actions re the lawsuit.

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Daniel expressed his opinion in a video blog, and that is it. Despite you higher education, it seems to me that you are not familiar with what a blog is. A blog is where someone (often daily) expresses thoughts/opinions on current issues. You do not need an education to express your opinion in a blog, and people who follow Negreanu's blog are aware of that. We who read blogs do not expect a blogger to start every blog with "I do not have an education on this, but...".


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He knows or should know that his doing so will tend to turn at least some of the public opinion against the plaintiffs.

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Not nearly as much as your comment about being happy to see Dan Negreanu being eliminated from the WSOP.


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I said he is stupid or a sockpuppet. I really don't see how there is a legitimate 3rd option.

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A 3rd option is that he has a valid point that this lawsuit will draw negative attention to online poker (since all seven of you are sponsored by online poker sites), and therefore hurt poker as a whole.

[West]

not sure, i think so. that's not something that I personally care about. what I care about is what Greg mentioned - the fact that the WPT releases doesn't just give them the right to use your name/likeness to promote the WPT, it appears (and I am not a lawyer), to give them a lot more than that.

[Shandrax]

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Greenstein, Dn and so forth would be considered much better cash game players but since we are talkin tournaments Hellmuth is at the top...Will he be passed one day? probably

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Greenstein's game is based on betting people off their hands. That won't work with donkeys who are willing to call off all their money with top pair. Hellmuth just traps them and shows them the nuts. He made a living out of beating beginners. Greenstein made a living out of beating pros who are capable of making "great" laydowns.

[pokeraz]

If the WPT was the only game in town, I could see the validity of your complaint. However, you have a choice to not sign their contract AND play elsewhere. How is that a monopoly? Not only are there alternative tournaments, some would argue there are superior alternatives - ie.. WSOP.