STTF SNG->cash thread

[cha59]

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Cha,

No matter what he has you are close to getting odds. Throw in even a slight chance of a draw or two pair or overpair and it's a clear call. IOW, clear call.

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I'm not worried about over pairs and I have good equity vs sets, but if he has big draws, like AKhh, AJhh and KJhh, that makes my equity a lot less. There's an outside chance he has JT here as well.

[microbet]

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Cha,

No matter what he has you are close to getting odds. Throw in even a slight chance of a draw or two pair or overpair and it's a clear call. IOW, clear call.

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I'm not worried about over pairs and I have good equity vs sets, but if he has big draws, like AKhh, AJhh and KJhh, that makes my equity a lot less. There's an outside chance he has JT here as well.

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You're not in good shape against AKhh, but not *that* bad compared to pot odds. There are a lot of hands that where you'll be making a slightly bad call, but even a moderate chance of 2pr or overpair makes up for them and even a smidgen of a chance of something like 67 more than compensates for things like AKhh where you are a 2 to 1 dog.

[Jbrochu]

Karp:

On the 8Tdd hand: I'm not sure what you mean by out-of-control, but if you mean he's calling a lot, and raising and putting pressure on the pot postflop, I would just fold preflop. You're most likely going to flop a weak pair or draw, and he's not going to let you play for a cheap showdown.

I would much rather take a flop with that hand against someone who was likely to be holding a big pair.

The AK hand is tough. If I thought that villain could raise that flop bet into two players (including the preflop raiser) with a weak Ace, I guess I would shove. Most likely I would fold.

I'm not really confident though about that though. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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Raising JJ here is fine at 25NL too.

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I agree 100%. I was just explaining why I leaned toward calling in that particular instance.

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Here is a spot I am having some trouble with. Maybe the problem is opening this light from the CO with a villain on the BU that just doesn't like folding?

Comments on all streets welcome.


Villain is 54/26/1.4 over 40.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($40.25)
SB ($30.85)
BB ($24.50)
UTG ($73.90)
jb ($24.65)

Preflop: jb is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">jb raises to $1</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($2.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">jb bets $1.75</font>, Button calls $1.75.

Turn: ($5.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
jb checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $4.5</font>, jb calls $4.50.

River: ($14.85) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
jb checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $33 (All-In)</font>, jb...?

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JB, I like your line, but I think you have to fold the river. YOu have tpwk. I think you're up against 2 pair.

[K䲰䮥n]

Villain is a TAG reg who 3bets from the blinds vs. other TAGs a bit too wide. But just a bit. Villain will go broke on many flops (like TPNK or flush draw + overcards etc). However he folds all but AK and QQ+ to 4bets. Is it better to 4bet or call PF?

6 players, NL100
100 BBs stacks
Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero?

[dipstikdave]

i 4bet and hope he has a hand to call with. i think it's better than trying to get it in on the flop with a pair.

[K䲰䮥n]

<font color="brown">RVG AND OTHER 4BETTING GODS I CALL FOR YOU!</font>

I was trying to imitate some of you I quess. Villain is 28/25/5 3bets very wide on the blinds. I have folded my PFR to his 3bet two times this session. I would have folded to PF push.

No IQ poker Rosendal 0.50/1, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($40.95)
SB ($37)
BB ($102)
UTG Hero ($100)
UTG+1 ($230.90)
CO ($122.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5 6
Hero raises to 4, 4 folds, BB raises to 13.50, Hero raises to 32, BB calls 21.50.

Flop (72.50) 7 7 Q
BB checks, Hero bets 64, BB calls 64.

Turn (200.50) 9

River (200.50) 2

And for entertainment purposes:

BB shows A A
Hero shows 5 6

BB wins 200.50 with Two pair, Ace's and Seven's with a Queen for a kicker

[DevinLake]

AA hand. I'd call and shove most flop, just call on the dryest ones.

56s hand. I fold. I doubt you've been 3-bet by this guy often when you raised UTG.

[Scuba Chuck]

Villain is 22/6.5/1.6 over 75 hands. She has been here longer than I.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($62)
UTG ($10)
MP ($33.55)
Button ($138.10)
Hero ($46.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.35</font>, BB calls $1, UTG folds.

Flop: ($2.85) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($10.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10.75</font>, Hero calls $10.75.

River: ($32.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $32.25</font>

I sometimes hate deepstacks. Ok, the main thing I noticed during all of this was the speed at which she bet each round was lightning fast. That's the only thing that made me want to call. I stopped and checked her PT stats, and the only hands she has shown down were KK, AQo and TT. In addition, while her overall AF is 1.6, her FLOP AF is 4.5, Turn AF is 7, and River is infinity.

[Josem]

SC - I think you need to 3-bet the flop to about $10 or so.

As played, I think you need to check/fold the river. Villain is not raising flop, betting turn and betting river with a worse hand, methinks.