how can this NOT be collusion? - Page 16

diddle · #**151** 04-05-2006, 06:19 PM

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They hard play each other heads up.

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Of course they would. NYPlayer I think you have more money than sense if you continue to play with these cheaters.

I could see physical harm coming to these guys.

I know I would be [censored] mad if I were Piejay.

CardSharpCook · #**152** 04-05-2006, 06:39 PM

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Yeah it looks weird. I mean either they ar cheating or dumb animal is pretty bad at poker. Everyone here knows that is not the case, which is why this looks so bad.

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Before going on the PPM cruise, I always loved having DumbAnimal in my 30/60 games, especially when they went SH. Complete argo-donkey and somewhat of a moron, IMO. I also had the pleasure of playing with him in that tourney before knowing his party name. My impression of him live was the same as it was online. Agro-donkey, moron. I was so glad he was at my table. However, a bunch of people think he's really good, and he did finish 6th in that event, so maybe I'm wrong.

Of course, these hands seem perfectly in line with the player I know as DumbAnimal. On the other hand, perhaps collusion would explain his supposed success.

limon · #**153** 04-05-2006, 06:56 PM

this is why just a limit or 2 below the top the games are squeaky clean. the colluders have NO chance of getting caught so they go straight to the top. a smart business man would "out" the big sites to the media for harboring cheaters/crooks at the same time his 100% clean site with state of the art detection software, real experts and diligent follow up launched. there is a vacuum, many players and soon to be players fear this. a whole ad campaign business strategy could be built around it...pokerfair.com anyone?

SirFWALGMan · #**154** 04-05-2006, 07:09 PM

I dont get this.. I mean I do not understand raising pre-flop with 75 or any of the mad aggressive play here, but why would it be collussion? Why would someone want to up the pot with a 7 and a 5, and why the hell in gods name would you, if you were colluding, want to raise the hell out of a pair of fives? Would you not want a better hand? I mean if your colluding here and you want to get as much money in the pot with a pair of fives then your a freaking moron.

daryn · #**155** 04-05-2006, 07:24 PM

the guy with the 75 was the "victim"

brick · #**156** 04-05-2006, 07:35 PM

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/show...page=0&vc=1

http://www.neverwinpoker.com/phpnuke...ic&t=17018

chisness · #**157** 04-05-2006, 07:43 PM

From NWP:

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I play the 300-600 game all the time:

1. I have never seen any type of colluding
2. I would gladly want to play against 2 players who were colluding
3. I love how a bunch of low limit animals from 2 + 2 analyze a hand from a 300-600 game, really its a [censored] joke. People play very erradically in the game, which is why it is very tough to beat. I have seen many scenerios similiar to these hand histories posted before. I have played hands myself like the hands shown.
4. I know 100 percent for sure this wasnt collusion.
5. Anyone who thinks this was collusion, well thats why you will never beat a 300-600 game.
6. Lastly, if anyone is scared to play 6 max 300-600 because of collusion, I will happily accomdate you in a 300-600 heads up game where definitely there is no cheating possible.

Neverwin

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brick · #**158** 04-05-2006, 08:05 PM

uggh. this makes me want to become the best heads up limit poker player in the world. but the problem is that even if I achieved that, there's not much edge to be had. just gambling at it finest.

ggbman · #**159** 04-05-2006, 08:10 PM

It's a pretty dumb response overall, a few points

1.) It's possible that this wasn't collusion, but stating that anyone who thinks this is fishy is an idiot is dumb, these hand are highly suspicious
2.) Several playes who do beat 300-600 games have chimed in and think this is suspicious
3.)If i was Devin and had been wrongly accused, i would have said what i had that friend, and then called everyone here a bunch of jackasses for jumping to conclusions. If he wants to clear that up, he can just post that HH
4.) If neverwin really wants to play against 2 players colluding against him 3 handed, i'm sure someone will take him up on it. (i will) I know he was being sacrcastic, but its an obvious lie.

James282 · #**160** 04-05-2006, 09:00 PM

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From NWP:

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I play the 300-600 game all the time:

1. I have never seen any type of colluding
2. I would gladly want to play against 2 players who were colluding
3. I love how a bunch of low limit animals from 2 + 2 analyze a hand from a 300-600 game, really its a [censored] joke. People play very erradically in the game, which is why it is very tough to beat. I have seen many scenerios similiar to these hand histories posted before. I have played hands myself like the hands shown.
4. I know 100 percent for sure this wasnt collusion.
5. Anyone who thinks this was collusion, well thats why you will never beat a 300-600 game.
6. Lastly, if anyone is scared to play 6 max 300-600 because of collusion, I will happily accomdate you in a 300-600 heads up game where definitely there is no cheating possible.

Neverwin

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Neverwin shares an account with dumbanimal, and very well could have been playing on this account at the time it was going on. This ought to explain his response.
-James