tell me what you think of splitting 'a&e' into a separate forum - Page 15

Patrick del Poker Grande · #**141** 04-02-2006, 05:12 PM

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2) It is my stand that the topics of art and entertainment will still be able to be freely discussed in this forum without repercussion. The new forum will be for those who, for whatever reason, don't want to come to this one.

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I think this is really good. If I want to discuss American Idol crap I can do it in OOT and not have to do it in front of a bunch of intellectuals?

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No. American Idol goes in the Zoo.

tdarko · #**142** 04-02-2006, 05:14 PM

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No. American Idol goes in the Zoo.

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I dunno, I think Granny gets a little angry when AI is talked about over here and not in the zoo.

mostsmooth · #**143** 04-02-2006, 05:17 PM

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It is my stand that the topics of art and entertainment will still be able to be freely discussed in this forum without repercussion. The new forum will be for those who, for whatever reason, don't want to come to this one.

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can we start posting sports and poker related topics in OOT? i dont like to go to those other forums.

tuq · #**144** 04-02-2006, 05:19 PM

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I've read every post in this thread, and if I had to make the decision right now, the new forum would be created.

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Ugh. Ghey.

I'm telling you right now, if you make this move, Jesus will kill a kitten. Don't do it. Consider kitty's feelings.

tdarko · #**145** 04-02-2006, 05:22 PM

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I'm telling you right now, if you make this move, Jesus will kill a kitten. Don't do it.

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take these comments to the religion forum...wait...another OOT split!

private joker · #**146** 04-02-2006, 05:33 PM

I posted my opinion in the Forum Suggestions thread several weeks ago, but to reiterate: I like the split. How hard is it for OOTers to click on a movies/music/tv forum if they want to talk about Lost? Just go over there. It'll be easier to find threads anyway.

El Diablo · #**147** 04-02-2006, 05:38 PM

astro, Mat:

Splitting that out would be a horrible move. From a business perspective, I think you significantly underestimate the possibility that this split would result in a large reduction in traffic.

The A&E stuff is a core part of why many of us come to OOT. This is where, on 2+2, we disucss movies/TV/music/books/etc. Entertainment and food/drink are the two primary reasons why I frequent OOT. However, if I want to have an in-depth discussion or research some specific entertainment topic, I visit one of the countless entertainment-specific forums available.

I don't think people pushing for the A&E split understand the dynamics of what keeps OOT going well enough. A healthy mix of content that people are actually interested in discussing (A&E, food, etc.) plus some personal stuff (gf probs, personal anecdotes, trip reports) plus some silly stuff (tennis ball color, nature of perfect dump, etc) is what keeps OOT working and vibrant. Get rid of enough of the first category and OOT becomes not worth the time, and the place people will go is not the 2+2 A&E forum, it's some other forum. The fact that you can take back the split doesn't matter. Once you lose a forum member, they're likely to stay gone. The fact that A&E content would still be ALLOWED here is irrelevant if there's another 2+2 forum devoted to that discussion.

db, most of your points make little sense imo. There have been vibrant discussions about countless bands, TV shows, etc. here. If people are interested in discussing a movie and a well-written post is made about it, it can easily stay active for a long time.

DMBFan23 · #**148** 04-02-2006, 05:39 PM

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2) It is my stand that the topics of art and entertainment will still be able to be freely discussed in this forum without repercussion. The new forum will be for those who, for whatever reason, don't want to come to this one.

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Then it's a no-brainer IMO.

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Yeah, my main objection was that it would create an annoying precedent of splitting OOT into each of its sub topics, and eventually all we would be left with is the poop and sex forum.

I won't read the new forum but if other people will, good for them. As long as it doesn't affect OOT as it is, that's cool. I still want 'Top ten by play count' type posts here, as well as posts on how hot Jessica Alba is.

+1 to the number of people who think being afraid of OOT is really, hella, lame. It's even lamer than my use of 'hella'

egocidal · #**149** 04-02-2006, 05:41 PM

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all,

as to the comment that the better reviews will manage to stay on the top of the heap, consider this: when I reviewed Pyassa, an uber-obscure Bollywood musical from the 50's, it didn't really matter how good the review was. it had zero name recognition and was quickly buried, pretty much as i expected. but a couple people read it, and that's the primary reason i post them anyway.

as for the split, i imagine a lot of people are just scared of change. i was against the sports split at first, but got used to it. i don't see an overwhelming reason for this one, but i suspect i'd get used to it.

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Pryor,

I know you are a filmie. I know you write pretentious reviews. But that doesn't mean that there will be traffic for people to see them. And that is an issue here: will people read reviews like this, and bring traffic?

When you wrote this review for a film called Pyassa, and no one wrote about it, it was because most people want to read reviews on this site about more common movies, opening features, etc. I enjoy good film, and am not trying to say no one else does, but the fact of the matter is that this is a poker forum, with one side bar for politics, sports, science, and other topics. Entertainment is in that other topics. If you want to write reviews on obscure films, you're best audience for discussion will be found on IMDB, rottentommatoes, or other FILM REVIEW sites. I don't know why you would look to a poker forum for discussion on movies that possibly....three other people have seen?

El Diablo · #**150** 04-02-2006, 05:42 PM

pj,

There are too many forums already. That is why I infrequently discuss Sports and Politics on 2+2 now. Once you get rid of a certain amount of quality content critical mass in OOT, people will stop coming here. And if they need to click to other subforums anyway, it's just as easy to go to a forum devoted to the topic rather than a poker forum offshoot. This split would not only hurt OOT, I think it might end up significantly decreasing traffic in forums like the Sports forum as well.