Is there even a close second to Jimi Hendrix? - Page 15

gwhiz_612 · #**141** 03-09-2007, 06:24 AM

For the nay sayers please examine... Star Spangled banner (Woodstock)I think this is one of his most inspiring works. It exemplifies his whole trip. IMO its one of the purest Hendrix compositions of his career.

theblackkeys · #**142** 03-09-2007, 06:54 AM

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It is hard for me to say who is better, Hendrix or Page, as far as guitar playing goes. Page's career spanned alot more years than Hendrix. I really cant say one or the other. The bottom line is they both rocked.

Hendrix played a stratocaster primarily and did a lot of whammy bar tricks. He got engineer friends to build him fuzz pedals and black boxes for different sounds. He was masterful at creating different "colors" of sounds and using them in songs. He recorded alot of stuff then used it backwards on tracks.

His style was characterized by alot of slides, grace-notes, full chord grace-notes and slurs, nuances, open chords, volume knob effects, wah-wah pedal screams on bent high notes along with open string unisons. The whole package was this bizarre portrait of sounds.

Jimmy Page's approach was much more straight forward. He played primarily a Les Paul for it's heavier tone (especially on bar chords) given by the humbucking pickups, in contrast to Hendrix's three single pickups in multi configurations that lead to more tone combinations. Page had no whammy bar, and did all his effects via string bending and reverse bending. Page rarely used the wah-wah, and his overdrive was usually from the amp only and no heavy fuzz pedals were used. Page did use some delay, though, and messed around with a violin bow and a funny device called a theramin. He also played acoustic, 12-string, and liked to place microphones in different places for recording. He played hard rock riffs, bar chords, Muddy Waters blues, and some modal jazz influenced scale work, all with tons of string bending, pretty good speed, and inspired phrasing. On acoustic he experimented with alternate tunings and droning type colors. His acoustic work stemmed from English folk music, whereas his rock and roll was more Americanized. What resulted with this blend of mellow and raucous, which help propel the rock band Led Zeppelin to fame.

Also, too, Jimi Hendrix was much more of a solo artist, as he ditched the Experience early on and played with different bass and drummer. The majority of Page's career was with Led Zeppelin, and they were a band of four extremely talented members, that when put together sored beyond the heights of their individuality.

Who's better? Who cares. They both rocked. Listen and enjoy.

-J

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Got-damn! That was an excellent write-up.

fsista · #**143** 03-09-2007, 07:23 AM

Thing is, it is very hard to compare. Even though I personally like Hendrix style a lot, someone like Eric Clapton has a completely different guitar style and mastered that style instead. I think it is next to impossible to judge whom is the better guitarist when their styles never really compare. Jimmy Page is also up there. I personally like Johnny Greenwood's style a lot.

Stagger_Lee · #**144** 03-09-2007, 07:33 AM

Andrés Segovia

bernie · #**145** 03-09-2007, 08:19 AM

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For the nay sayers please examine... Star Spangled banner (Woodstock)I think this is one of his most inspiring works. It exemplifies his whole trip. IMO its one of the purest Hendrix compositions of his career.

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You realize he didn't exactly compose that, right?

Personally, I think it sounds like crap. Always thought it sounded like crap. Some interesting parts, but the overall sound just sucks. Seems alot of people like to say they like it because it sounds cool to say. Great tune to annoy your parents. That's about it. If it wasn't attached to 'woodstock' no one would've really cared.

Here's a lil' gem I found though:
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PayTheSnucka · #**146** 03-09-2007, 11:37 AM

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You realize he didn't exactly compose that, right?

Personally, I think it sounds like crap. Always thought it sounded like crap. Some interesting parts, but the overall sound just sucks. Seems alot of people like to say they like it because it sounds cool to say. Great tune to annoy your parents. That's about it. If it wasn't attached to 'woodstock' no one would've really cared.

Here's a lil' gem I found though:
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What a load of BS. (not your critique - that is your entitlenment, but to the notion that its cache comes from its attachment to Woodstock) You do realize that he did SSB many times and that each one had its own identity? You also realize that there were socially relevant events going on during those times that we are far removed from?

This is the whole thing - Jimi was a social icon, and that is what separates him from the other musicians at the time. He didn't ask to be - but he happened to be a black man with legions of white fans during the late 1960s, so it was just forced upon him.

You can't compare Jimi Hendrix musically to anybody since he was so much more to the world than just a musician, despite doing little more than playing music.

JJNJustin · #**147** 03-09-2007, 01:10 PM

Hendrix's SSB at Woodstock was a statement about Vietnam and the state of the country. He chose the national anthem and played it in a deranged insane fashion to make a statement about the state of our government at the time.

It was pure genius.

He might have been just a little high at the time, I'm not certain.

-J

bernie · #**148** 03-10-2007, 02:49 AM

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You realize he didn't exactly compose that, right?

Personally, I think it sounds like crap. Always thought it sounded like crap. Some interesting parts, but the overall sound just sucks. Seems alot of people like to say they like it because it sounds cool to say. Great tune to annoy your parents. That's about it. If it wasn't attached to 'woodstock' no one would've really cared.

Here's a lil' gem I found though:
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b

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What a load of BS. (not your critique - that is your entitlenment, but to the notion that its cache comes from its attachment to Woodstock) You do realize that he did SSB many times and that each one had its own identity? You also realize that there were socially relevant events going on during those times that we are far removed from?

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Jimi playing SSB is directly linked to Woodstock. You never really hear of him playing it anywhere else. Where else is he really known to have played it that they refer to it over and over? When someone mentions woodstock, 90% think of Jimi playing the SSB. And vice versa. So yes, the attachment is valid in that sense.

The timing of when he played that, both actual place and other factors, are also notable, which help elevate its status.

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Jimi was a social icon, and that is what separates him from the other musicians at the time.

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Jimi wasn't the only social icon of that time. He wasn't the only musical social icon of that time either.

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bernie · #**149** 03-10-2007, 02:51 AM

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Hendrix's SSB at Woodstock was a statement about Vietnam and the state of the country. He chose the national anthem and played it in a deranged insane fashion to make a statement about the state of our government at the time.

It was pure genius.

He might have been just a little high at the time, I'm not certain.

-J

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On its own, it still sounds like crap.

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Dilznoofus · #**150** 03-10-2007, 03:22 AM

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Hendrix's SSB at Woodstock was a statement about Vietnam and the state of the country. He chose the national anthem and played it in a deranged insane fashion to make a statement about the state of our government at the time.

It was pure genius.

He might have been just a little high at the time, I'm not certain.

-J

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On its own, it still sounds like crap.

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No, it doesn't.

edit: I said something not very nice and deleted it.