"Official" Poker After Dark thread (week 1) - Page 15

JuntMonkey · #**141** 01-04-2007, 04:05 PM

The game got a lot more boring after Phil left...it's times like these that they might wind up needing a color commentator.

Phil's play was marginal...11xBB from the button with AT...raise to 3x and then fold with 8xBB left behind? I mean I guess it's okay especially considering there's one mediocre player in the blinds and he should be able to use his superior reading ability, but still...

adenosine · #**142** 01-04-2007, 04:18 PM

I don't think they'll need a color commentator. With the blinds going up, many players are getting pretty shorted stacked and will have to make moves with less than stellar hands. It will make for an interesting show when people get caught with less than premium goods.

Devil Duq · #**143** 01-04-2007, 05:07 PM

This series is clearly borderline unwatchable w/o Tivo. Not only do viewers need shelter from the avalanche of commercials but a personal editing tool is also a big help, since hands of interest occur on PAD at about a 20% clip.

BTW, kudos to whichever ad salesman at NBC was able to book out so many sponsors for an 0200 time slot. They must have shanghaied him/her from American Idol.

IQ89 · #**144** 01-04-2007, 05:31 PM

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many players are getting pretty short stacked and will have to make moves with less than stellar hands. It will make for an interesting show when people get caught with less than premium goods.

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This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I hate; pre flop all-in match-ups with one or more short stacks.

cprice2 · #**145** 01-04-2007, 06:16 PM

Do you guys think any played that A3 right against Sheikah when the board was two pair? I probably would have reraised on the turn.

Mr. Orange · #**146** 01-04-2007, 08:02 PM

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Zotlow is playing scared or something, it seems... Very passive, particularly against Gus.

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I've been thinking this all week. He's like a folding machine. Does he always play like this?

Mr. Orange · #**147** 01-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Hellmuth is idiot. How many years has been playing poker?? I can't remember. World Wide Wrestling Federation?? What is this 1972???

He brings stuff like this on himself because of his antics. So many of the players view him as a joke (despite his obvious talent). That being said he was right that the other players should have stop talking while he debating his all in.

Hansen and Seed are pretty funny. They don't talk all the time like the others but they've been delivering gold when they do.

I've enjoyed watching the show but the poker has been really boring. In beggining of the week no one was doing much cause the blinds were low. It seemed like they were waiting for the blinds to escalate before making a move. Suddenly the blinds are high and the play is still extremely passive.

rokstedy · #**148** 01-04-2007, 08:35 PM

I'm confused. This is a tournament? Why the cash on the tables?

LasVegasMichael · #**149** 01-04-2007, 08:49 PM

Cash is on the table, as the chip stacks matched the buy in dollar for dollar, so essentially, they are playing a winner take all cash game, with escalating blinds. The cash on the table makes for better TV.

ClonexxSA · #**150** 01-04-2007, 08:52 PM

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Actually, Phil said he thought Annie had a weak ace in the blow-up hand when she had KK, so his reading abilities were a little off on that hand. But give some credit to Sheiky for saying that Phil probably had either A 8 or A 10, the A 10 being correct.

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Sheiky said that after Phil had already announced he had A 10 while ranting about noone being quiet....so no real credit to be given there.

Before the huge blowup, Phil asked Sheikan to "PLEASE be quiet". More people at the table made comments, Sheiky laughed, Phil spewed at Sheiky again. Phil asked for quiet again, then asked Annie about the "4k more huh Annie?" and then Huck makes a crack about Phil just wanting other people to shut up so he can talk. The table laughs at him (Except Annie I think, hard to tell). Phil made his comment about his reading abilities and then Skeiky mocks him for it...Phil tells Sheiky to STFU and Sheiky plays all innocent and says "I didn't say anything!" ....

Phil is a whiney baby, but in this instance he was 100% right. The table shoulda STFU and let him think. When he asked for quiet then spoke to Annie, he was most certainly looking or listening for a read, then Huck busts out with his dig at Phil. The ENTIRE table except Annie was being completely disrespectful to Phil in that one hand, it was digusting and like a schoolyard gang up. His read may have been off and the tilt may have saved him from going out that one hand, but that isn't the point. Sheiky instigated Phil to the max, Huck helped and then Sheiky played it off like he didn't do a thing wrong.

Phil's antics are funny, and make for great TV. Sheiky was put there to make sure Phil hit critical mass for maximum drama. I don't like Phil, but he makes me laugh. Sheiky just reminds me of the way the Junior High kids act at the school district where I work. I can stand and laugh at Phil, I can't stand Sheiky at all.

Being a sore loser at least has a reason behind it, even though it's completely lame. Lose and move on is how I try to be, but sometimes it's not easy to swallow a loss. Being a sore winner is infinitely worse. Rubbing it in someones face while you rake in their chips is just flat out disgusting in my eyes.

Phil showed his class when he could lose that last hand to Sheikan of all people and shake his hand while complimenting him on the poker hand and walking away quietly. All that, even after he was taunted all to hell at the beginning of the hand (and through all 3 episodes) when then turned over their hands and Phil had made a very standard small stack BB push with a low Ace and got unlucky by running into 77.